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By xfan2

March 10, 2010 10:26 PM | Link to this

I think BG should have kept his mouth shut about the booing. He could have discussed it with his team, but bringing it to the media just made things worse. It has been a frustrating season for the UD fans. They pay good money for their tickets, they buy the arena’s awful food and buy team paraphernalia, so, they have the right to boo. The UD players are young men, not kids. If they had their feelings hurt, they just better get over it. Oh yeah…Go XU!

By ironmyke

March 10, 2010 9:25 AM | Link to this

Paying fans have the right to boo, but booing an amateur team or players is tacky. Sometimes fans get so rabid they lose perspective, because it’s really just entertainment. When it ceases to be entertaining for those fans, they might be better served to find something to do that they enjoy.

By Duke

March 9, 2010 7:27 PM | Link to this

I want to be sure what is OK after reading all of these comments…I can’t boo anyone who is consitently underperforming. I can’t boo a college kid who is getting far more in the way of an education than 95% of the people in this country (and free too boot). I can’t expect the team and coach to get better and adapt to the flow of a game, without expressing my displeasure. I can’t boo someone who is not hustling or trying every play (sans Chris Johnson). I can go to work and be called names by people who don’t do what they are supposed too and blame me for their troubles which I had no hand in causing. Lastly, have any of you ever been in Cameron Indoor Stadium for a Duke basketball game? See what they yell at college kids and you will think booing a lackluster performance is mild…

By Dayton Cryers

March 9, 2010 7:02 PM | Link to this

Ha! Ha! That’s right, well maybe unless they don’t invite us. But don’t boo if we don’t make it. It will upset the kids. That their coach fooled them.

By Rudy Cryer

March 9, 2010 6:56 PM | Link to this

Booooooooooooooooo…….Dayton Cryers! Booooooooooooooooo…….Dayton Cryers! We’re going to the N-I-T! N-I-T! N-I-T!

By Dayton Cryers

March 9, 2010 6:45 PM | Link to this

Flyer Grad 2002 you probably also think like a lot of these people that Gregory is a good recruiter. Just FYI he can’t be that good if all he has is a winning season with all his seniors he recruited. I personally feel bad for people he recruited. He’s more like a good bullshitter than recruiter.

By Dayton Cryers

March 9, 2010 6:41 PM | Link to this

Boo! Flyer Grad 2002! So lets see you can’t boo the coach that is losing. But you can threaten people that write an article.

By Flyer Grad 2002

March 9, 2010 6:31 PM | Link to this

Arch, You are …..

By NY Flyer72

March 9, 2010 6:23 PM | Link to this

DON’T BOO… ENCOURAGE…DON’T HATE because your DISAPPOINTED. They played an up tempo game, they defended relentlessly, the boys played their asses off. You so them represent UD on and off the court with distinction and class.They played the way they were asked,the best they could. That’s what is expected of scholar/athletes. LET’S FACE IT! THEY ARE NOT THAT GOOD AS THE OTHER TEAMs…

By lol

March 9, 2010 6:22 PM | Link to this

They’re not doing anything for free, unless free is free tuition (39k), free tutoring whenever they want it, and an sports academic arm of the University that ‘politely’ informs professors to agree to that it’s okay for a sports release. As a UD fan, I think we taught these young men an important lesson: life isn’t rosy, you have to perform to keep people happy and you’re a mortal, even though the University spoon feeds you everything else.

By 1 HATED ON

March 9, 2010 6:08 PM | Link to this

The guard play has been extremely horrible. Our three sr’s who handle the peel deserve to get booo’d! They literally gave our somewhat tourney hopes & mad ESPN buzz away.

By Boo Who

March 9, 2010 6:05 PM | Link to this

More examples of political correctness to the extreme! Flyer fans are the most pathetic whiners I’ve ever seen! Lets just all hold hands and sing praises at the game while watching a group of prima donna’s that can’t dribble, shoot, handle pressure or win! Wait a minute, thats the people in the seats at UD Arena! Maybe if we’re lucky they’res room in The Horizon League, providing they’d have us!

By Dayton Cryers

March 9, 2010 5:59 PM | Link to this

If Dayton want’s to have better coaches how about taking a page out of Xavier’s book. Where does Xavier get their coaches? From their own staff and they move up. How about hiring Pat Kelsey as the new head coach? He knows all the recruits Xavier is going after. He knows just as much as Chris Mack. He was taught by the same great coach Skip Prosser. Then you will have a fighting chance in the Xavier vs UD rivalry and in winning the A10 and changing the program to a winning program. But NO. They will stick with Gregory until he wins and leaves with no one to turn to. Or wait until he turns UD into a losing program before Oliver Purnell.

By max

March 9, 2010 5:48 PM | Link to this

It’s the coach’s job to teach fundamentals. The fylers are losing because of eratic guard play. too many turnovers and lack of a real field general on the court. Both are fast and loose with the ball. A team that does not have the discipline to shoot free throws say something in itself.

By wake up!

March 9, 2010 5:48 PM | Link to this

Gregory is a bad game coach period. good recruiter, bad coach! Subs? Turnovers? Freethrows? any improvement? see Bobby knight for that or even Thad Matta, their teams get better. Gregory is a mascot and he will not be here in 2 years, wake up fans!

By dayton cryers

March 9, 2010 5:46 PM | Link to this

Why wouldn’t you be allowed to boo the coach if he makes bad decisions, makes bad calls and doesn’t win! I guess we should cheer! That doesn’t make sense. That would be like saying we shouldn’t cheer when we beat another team. It’s like disrespecting the poor team that lost. They are just kids why are you cheering if these other kids just lost? what a joke

By dayton cryers

March 9, 2010 5:45 PM | Link to this

Why wouldn’t you be allowed to boo the coach if he makes bad decisions, makes bad calls and doesn’t win! I guess we should cheer! That doesn’t make sense. That would be like saying we shouldn’t cheer when we beat another team. It’s like disrespecting the poor team that lost. They are just kids why are you cheering if these other kids just lost?

By Andy

March 9, 2010 5:35 PM | Link to this

I booed a 20 year old NBA player….I guess I’m a bad person. UD players get a 50,000 education for free, perks, money under the table and everything else. BOOOOO away!

By Realist

March 9, 2010 5:32 PM | Link to this

Say what you will about Butler, they’ll play anybody, anytime, anywhere. Nick — great statements about delusional UD fans. One NCAA win in 20 years, doesn’t qualify you as a basketball school.

By Philox

March 9, 2010 5:20 PM | Link to this

I don’t know that its ever wrong to boo the team. These are little kids - they are young adults and essentially playing the NBA’s version of minor league. They know what they are getting into when they are recruited. But to boo a team that won 19 games and lost to a team that won 20 and has a Hall of Fame coach on the bench? That is ridiculous. Sure its disappointing, but if the anything this year has taught us - don’t believe your own press clippings. This team (from the coach to the end of the bench) is quite good but not as good as we hoped and that is not boo worthy.

By Philox

March 9, 2010 5:20 PM | Link to this

I don’t know that its ever wrong to boo the team. These are little kids - they are young adults and essentially playing the NBA’s version of minor league. They know what they are getting into when they are recruited. But to boo a team that won 19 games and lost to a team that won 20 and has a Hall of Fame coach on the bench? That is ridiculous. Sure its disappointing, but if the anything this year has taught us - don’t believe your own press clippings. This team (from the coach to the end of the bench) is quite good but not as good as we hoped and that is not boo worthy.

By Jim

March 9, 2010 5:17 PM | Link to this

Butler run thru A10. Ha Ha. They had to take time off the clock to beat Xavier. Hope they play an A10 team and you will see.

By Rowdy10

March 9, 2010 5:03 PM | Link to this

WHO CARES! the other team in Dayton, (prolly the better one at this stage in the season) is playing FOR a spot in the Dance. Good luck even getting into the A-10 tourny Cryers! lol,……….Cryers is kinda fitting these days isnt it! :-)

By Bob

March 9, 2010 5:03 PM | Link to this

Is this the best Arch could come up with? Seriously?! They are paid, they’re getting tens of thousands of dollars a year in free room and board, tuition, fees, etc. It’s not wrong to voice displeasure at poor effort and wizzing away a perfectly good season in the last month of the season certainly constitutes that.

By MadDog2010

March 9, 2010 4:34 PM | Link to this

Didn’t they just give BG an extension? He seems to be and OK guy. I remember sitting behind the bench when Oliver was here. Early in his career here. And some guy stands up and yells! OLiver nice lineup. Probably would take that back now, wouldn’t he? Maybe the A-10 is as good as everyone on this BLOG is bragging about? That’s why they struggle? Or maybe everyone got caught up in the Slam Dunk fest? Selling more tickets is the coaches job.Looks like Show time is over! Lets hope WSU wins tonight.Good luck Raiders! You’ll need it against Butler.Oh by the way. Butler would run thru the A-10 also.Maybe UD needs a small old gym,with courtious fans?

By Jack

March 9, 2010 4:26 PM | Link to this

“What has your top 25 in attendance ranking earned you as a fan” ……? Many nights of watching my favorite team play. Again, not a fairweather fan, while I may be upset with the performance, I still show up. I dont keep the tags on my shirt in case I want to return it after a loss.

By 311

March 9, 2010 4:25 PM | Link to this

Good article, Arch. Thank you. Adults should not be booing 19-22 year-old kids. Anyone secure with their own successes in life has no need to “boo” others. And by the way, if my 311 seat neighbors are reading…I hope you’re not that hateful and mean when your own children mess up. You know, those children who are sitting with you at every game, watching you go ballistic, and learning how to deal with disappointment by your example? And stop yelling “JESUS!” when you’re angry that someone has missed a shot or turned the ball over. If Jesus was playing they’d be winning. Just sayin’.

By ajr

March 9, 2010 4:23 PM | Link to this

The issue is not booing the kids. I believe the fans are booing gregory, and if you think he is going to listen to any fans you are wrong. Point in case he doesn’t ever listen to his own coaching staff. Every timeout you see most college coaches conversing with their assistants before they address the team, Gregory never does that. Why do you think we run the same plays over and over in crunch time, some weave at the top or double balls screen at the top of the key. Its hilarious that coming from MSU and all their set plays we have, we run the same thing over and over again. I mean Devin Searcy killed ST LOUIS at St Louis and how many times did we feed him the ball this weekend? Huelsman got killed off the dribble versus Saunders all 2nd half and who is guarding him with the game on the line? Exactly But then they may be booing that we don’t develop players, we have 6 seniors on the team and none of them have gotten better from and offensiver perspective since they have been here. Our guards are still out of control, Huelsman has not offensive skill and when searcy and benson are in the game we never give them the ball. MJ, CW can’t shoot. CJ only gets about 20-22 minutes a game and he is our best all around player. I cold keep going on and on but I have already wasted to much of my time. 1 thing fans might be upset about too is that UD’s only major sport that gets attention is hoops,and with that said the product fans are paying to see is not what they want. I am sure if OSU football was 6-6 their might be some boos directed towards tressel and I think last year during the offensive slump for the bucks Tress got to hear some boos and fans screaming too!

By Raider Nation

March 9, 2010 4:20 PM | Link to this

What do you expect from no-class Cryers fans? They’d boo their own mothers.

By nick

March 9, 2010 4:19 PM | Link to this

I’m the one who brought up giving up your tickets, and I don’t have tickets, and I don’t want tickets. I’m an OSU grad, and an OSU fan, and I have heard from all the UD crazies all year that UD, was better than OSU (which is at this point…hilarious). All I’m saying to the delirious UD fans, is this…..want to blame somebody for the loss….look in the mirror. Every year you re-up your season tickets, and spend 40 dollars per game on crummy draft beer, you are contributing to UD’s demise. Every year, it’s the same ole’ story, can’t fire Gregory, because of this wonderful recruiting class coming in…then every year, they fail to do anything, the so-called great recruits never get better, and the season ends in disappointment. This gives way to the ridiculous optimism of the off season, with the typical UD fan telling me that this year is different. Does anyone remember when the UD faithful was claiming Chris Wright was one and done to the NBA?? I certainly do. I also remember rumors of Tony Stanley being NBA bound. It’s almost like UD fans live in a separate reality. They are concerned good coaches won’t come here if the crowd boos??? Forgive me as I laugh myself to tears! Do you think OSU football fans, UK basketball fans etc…don’t boo when thier team fails to live up to expectations?? Of course they do, they demand excellence, UD fans demand mediocrity. Give up your tickets…make a statement…go support WSU, they play pretty good basketball out there too.

By CJ2etc

March 9, 2010 4:15 PM | Link to this

The majority of the booing happened in the second half when Benson and Searcy combined for 4 pts, a block and 2 rbds in a matter of 60 seconds and were rewarded with a prompt trip to the bench as Huelsman came back in. The people around me were all talking about how good, long, active and energetic the combo of players they had in the game at that time and it lasted 60 seconds for Benson and less than 2 minutes for Searcy. The booing was clearly directed at Gregory and his substitution patterns.

By Uh, Beavis......

March 9, 2010 4:11 PM | Link to this

I have attended WSU games since my school years in the early 1980s. Started purchasing season tickets in 1986 (PE building). Not once in over 300 games attended have I heard our fans boo our players. Not once. UD fans should be ashamed.

By Idiots

March 9, 2010 4:04 PM | Link to this

C’mon. Brian Gregory is a good coach and a good guy. Not sure why everyone is down on him. The team just can’t close at the end of games and makes poor shooting decisions in the last minute. I think it is the players fault although BG does need to recognize it and fix it quick

By Jim

March 9, 2010 3:55 PM | Link to this

The program needs to be booed not the players. BG doesn’t play his best players the majority of the game and it hurts the team. He had seven seniors and the team was picked to win the A10. Xavier has one senior and a new coach and tied for the A10 championship. UD needs to play Wright State as it is good for the community. There is no reason not to except for an elitist attitude.

By Jim

March 9, 2010 3:55 PM | Link to this

The program needs to be booed not the players. BG doesn’t play his best players the majority of the game and it hurts the team. He had seven seniors and the team was picked to win the A10. Xavier has one senior and a new coach and tied for the A10 championship. UD needs to play Wright State as it is good for the community. There is no reason not to except for an elitist attitude.

By tds70

March 9, 2010 3:45 PM | Link to this

No, fans should not boo at college games unless the refs make a realy bad call. Even then, make sure its a real blunder or it won’t have any effect anyway. These kids and coaches spend countless hrs preparing and doing what they feel is right to represent their school and the city of Dayton , and its fans. You boo , you boo yourselves! People can feel bad, and whish things were different, but if they boo, the team has every right to speak out and critisize the fans! These guys have to much class for that. They realize their shortcommings, but sometimes that is just the way it is. At a few games I have gotten into several short discussions asking people to stop complaining or to be quiet and grow up, and they quickly obliged. I trust the team and coaches , and good or bad I realize mistakes will be made, and progress not always what I want. However despite shortcommings whatever they may be , I will never boo the team that puts out like these teams have. Its pure disrespect and if you do not realize that then your are an _ _ _ or possibly half drunk like most of the people I had to requested to stop. I do not want to explain to my daughter why some people boo their team or dump their beer! Its a long way up to the 400 level, right! Pro’s who have this as a job, yes, boo away, but not these guys! People forget a great part of coaching is getting players to come to UD vs numerous other programs. BG and his wife have done a great job on and off the court and I hope he puts cotten in his ears. Why come to hear a bunch of babies boo! Funny thing is, the few people I challenged to stop felt bad and some apologized. My assumption is that they were so into things they did not even realize what they were doing! Who knows? Keep things in perspective folks, these are kids not you seasoned vets . They are players & coaches dedicated to what they do, and they like most normal people, will learn by mistakes. If you hear someone boo, ask them why, could they do better, do they do that in front of their kids , just ask them to please stop- it works and calmer heads prevail. If you think this is such a tuff year go to NC. I realy do not care what others think, if they agree or not, but I will defend my team. I may be have to talk to someone in the crowd , thats OK. Criticism should go through channels , not the arena airways. Or even better, If you do not like the product, stay home, maybe I’ll move lower in the 400’s or even reach the 300s, Great, I can see my seats for next yr already! Yes! I may come home horse , but it will never be from booing! Gooooooo ! Flyers! We are Dayton, We are UD!

By BTW

March 9, 2010 3:25 PM | Link to this

As far as people giving up their seats for other people to get better seats. You must not understand that times have changed and you will never get better seats unless you buy your way down. You can get better seats tomorrow if you pay and if you leave those seats, no one moves down they get sold to someone who will pay the price. You will be sitting in your seats for sometime if you think you are going to move down if people leave.

By null

March 9, 2010 3:20 PM | Link to this

First, I disagree with your statement that the players are not pros, because with UD’s exorbitant tuition and room and board,plus all the other perks such as free books, lab fees etc. they each make between $40,000-$60,000 a school year, plus whatever they make working for UD boosters over the summer. That is probably more than some of the season ticket holders. They are getting paid to play basketball. Second, I have never booed the players, I have complained about their lack of intensity, poor choices on the floor, etc. I hope the fans were booing the effort and lack of concentration. I remember Coach Donoher recounting a game in which a team he was on had a similar type of first half. He said Coach Blackburn chewed them up one side of the locker room and down the other side. As Coach Blackburn turned to go out the door for the second half one of the players threw an orange at him, it hit the wall by the door, but they did go out and win the game. Maybe the booing, if the players actually heard it was the reason they played much better in the second half.

By UDF

March 9, 2010 3:18 PM | Link to this

I agree Long Gone! The team was not being boo’d it was Brian Gregory. He does’t shoot the ball but picks the players and develops the talent. And if the talent doesn’t get better in 4 years. Well it is coaching.

By Long Gone

March 9, 2010 3:14 PM | Link to this

It is simply. The coach sucks! The program has gone down since Oliver. BG’s first year was with Oliver’s recruits and that was their best year since BG has been there. Every year after that they hung in there but kept getting worse. Now with all of BG’s players being seniors they have gone no where. If they had any chance of going anywhere it was this year with their seniors and Chris Wright. Next year will be a disaster, and Chris Wright will look like he made the wrong decision.

By wrc

March 9, 2010 3:09 PM | Link to this

It really doesn’t matter as UD will do nothing to changed the current coaching or playing.Secondly have to laughed atthe people which wants others to give up their season seats cause they’re unhappy.You’re just mad caused you’re seats are worse.No I wouldn’t boo but with current coaching this team will never ever move up to the next level as BG teams never improved as season wears on.That I blame on coaching.

By Rob

March 9, 2010 2:42 PM | Link to this

I have never booed the Flyers and I never will, it’s not in my nature. However, if some fans feel they need to do this, they should never boo the team due to poor performance, you know they’re trying, it’s when bad decisions are made that can justify the occasional negative noise from someone’s mouth. For example, a substitution when a player is hot, a point guard trying to drive the lane in traffic because he can’t score from the outside, a pass without a ballfake that gets picked off, etc. The fans pay a lot of money for the tickets and they want a winner. They were fooled early on this season into thinking that the team was really good. The fact is that they are just not that good. Chris Wright is an incredible athlete, but Chris Johnson is the only all-around basketball player on the team. Lowery and Marcus have had sub-par seasons, Warren aka Trainwreck, cannot shoot a jump shot, and Huelsman can only play defense. They need more players that can play at both ends of the floor. Williams, Perry, and Luke are too streaky. I like Brian Gregory, but maybe it’s time he adapts and changes his system and plays more all around basketball players. Stop recruiting one dimensional players. It’s been a very frustrating season, but GOOD LUCK Flyers, I’ll always pull for you.

By Boo B.G.

March 9, 2010 2:27 PM | Link to this

Gregory Needs to Go!

By Pat Talty UD '68

March 9, 2010 2:18 PM | Link to this

Bottom line is Chris Wright and Chris Johnson should be playing 30 plus minutes a game. This “hockey’ format has to stop. I know the fans don’t like it. I can’t believe the better players like it. Coach Gregory, admitting that your plan is not working and being willing to change is more the sign of great coaching than blind stuborness. GO FLYERS!!! Pat Talty UD ‘68

By dale g

March 9, 2010 2:00 PM | Link to this

The boos were not directed at the players, at least I hope not, Gregory was the target and well deserved. As I wrote the first part of the season “G” needs to coach well he didn’t and look where the Flyers are. Playing the same way from the first game to the last. The Flyers have no direction and with that there is only one choice Gregory MUST GO GO GO.

By AHA

March 9, 2010 1:57 PM | Link to this

RE: Please Stop What a joke man, lets say by some miracle WRONG STATE beats Butler…with your RPI and resume, you’ll be lucky to get any higher than a 13 seed which equates to a first round butt whoopin. At least if UD were to go on a run they have a shot to advance. All you so called UD “fans” who boo the team you supposedly support, I beg you, PLEASE give up your seats next year so we can get our positive vibe back. We don’t need you, and the team definitely don’t need you. Grow up and set a positive example or don’t show your pathetic faces in the arena again!

By ME

March 9, 2010 1:56 PM | Link to this

I THINK IF YOU ADULTS FEEL THE NEED TO BOO THE FLYERS FOR NOT WINNING, WELL, YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER GETTING SOME HELP BECAUSE YOU MAY BE MISSING SOMETHING IN YOUR OUR LIVES. JUST GET A LIFE. IF YOU CAN’T HANDLE YOUR TEAM LOSING, WELL THEN, FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO GO TO. WHY DISRESPECT THESE YOUNG MEN. IF YOU THINK YOU CAN DO BETTER, THEN Y AREN’T YOU OUT THERE???

By AHHAHHA

March 9, 2010 1:56 PM | Link to this

RE: Please Stop What a joke man, lets say by some miracle WRONG STATE beats Butler…with your RPI and resume, you’ll be lucky to get any higher than a 13 seed which equates to a first round butt whoopin. At least if UD were to go on a run they have a shot to advance. All you so called UD “fans” who boo the team you supposedly support, I beg you, PLEASE give up your seats next year so we can get our positive vibe back. We don’t need you, and the team definitely don’t need you. Grow up and set a positive example or don’t show your pathetic faces in the arena again!

By do I expect a good coach to come here?

March 9, 2010 1:54 PM | Link to this

YES — It’s funny because the UD fans (the same one’s who will brag and boast about their attendance, and try to convince you each year that they are a national title contender) are the one’s who say we can’t get a great coach! Why can UD not get a great coach. Again, look to XU for the answer. They have lost great coach after great coach, and they bring another one in. Time and time again! UD is a basketball school. Dayton is a basketball town, they have premier facilities, a premier fan base and a highschool caliber coach, who used to wash uniforms for the boys at MSU. How about UD hiring a coach, with experience as a head coach? Majerus is at St. Louis, in the A 10, don’t tell me UD can’t get a coach of that caliber! They don’t want to shell out the cash! And why should they? They’re sold out every year!! They’ll sell out next year!

By MikeM

March 9, 2010 1:43 PM | Link to this

Yes ther was booing and I was rather disturbed by it. I get mad, I yell, and I question but I have and never will boo MY team. In my opinion you stick with your team through thick or thin. I think as a fan you then earn the right to celebrate the good times by suffering AND supporting the team in the bad times. If you wanna boo I guess the ticket earns you that right but don’t sit behind me in sec. 403 and boo and expect I am going to sit there quietly…I’ll just root LOUDER. Flyer fan forever.

By FlyerFan2

March 9, 2010 1:22 PM | Link to this

FlyerFan and others who say they did not hear booing…I also have been a fan of the Flyers for many years and did attend the game last Saturday. There was definitely booing when the Flyers left the floor at half time. This was extremely sad. These young men deserve respect. I don’t think many fans understand about the pressures placed on these kids. It is outstanding to see that all of the seniors will be receiving their degree in May…and to think that they accomplished this while putting in the many hours required on the basketball court. Yes, fans have been frustrated with the way things have turned out this season as I’m sure are the players themselves. Although not all fans booed at Saturday’s game, I believe that the fans who did boo make the rest of the “good” Flyer fans look bad.

By Not a UD fan

March 9, 2010 1:15 PM | Link to this

I understand UD fans disapproval of their team right now. With all of the expectations that surrounded them it has to be frustrating to watch a team fumble down the stretch. I’m not a UD fan but I do watch them a lot. I go to games and watch on TV but do so objectively. The problem with UD as they stand today is that they have not progressed talent wise, or as a team from the beginning of the year. They are still making the same mistakes from 2 months ago. That to me would be EXTREMELY frustrating as a fan. We can say what we want about WSU but those kids get better. Their coach does a great job of that. I’m not saying they have UD’s talent but at the end of the year they are a lot better than when they started. Gregory is a great recruiter but he has been a poor developer of talent. Chris Wright has been tremendous since he arrived but he is playing at a far different level than what he could be capable of. He really hasnt developed as a player. He just continues to rely on his extreme athleticism at a level in which he is far superior to the others on the floor. Huelsman does so many things well but he has not grown into what UD fans want and who can we blame for that? Lowery has a great motor, but he might need the “Toyota recall” to get the pedal from sticking late in the game. It’s BG and his staff job to get the players to understand the pace. He has never developed them to either understand nor compete in a half-court setting. You need to be able to do so when you have leads in the 2nd half and need to protect them. I feel for the fans, I really do. Booing 18-22 yr olds who have not been taught well enough but are doing their best may not be the best show of support. Yet, a little “tough love” can show that you believe they can do better! That part I understand. Now Go Flyers and Go Raiders. Make the city proud!

By nick

March 9, 2010 1:13 PM | Link to this

Dear Jack: What has your top 25 in attendance ranking earned you as a fan?? What do you have to show for that?? Again, I’ll answer for you — What you got is a terrible play in game, that no one outside of dayton sees, and one NBA player (negele knight) and one ncaa tournament win, in nearly 20 years. So you can take your act to UD arena, with the rest of the knuckleheads who throw their hard earned money away to see a program that is inferior to thier counterpart XU in each and every regard imaginable. The fact is, if you want to make a statement about your unhappiness regarding UD’s shortcomings, don’t boo, instead revoke your season tickets…that’s the only way you’re going to get the attention of an administration, who is happy to give you a poor product, because you’re happily consuming it.

By Hook

March 9, 2010 1:11 PM | Link to this

Boooooo! The Flyers stink, again. Is it coaching? Is it lack of talent? Regardless this seems to be the trend every season for at least the last 5 years, start off with high expectations winning out of confrence games and fall flat at the end of the season, when all good teams are hitting their peak, the flyers are out of gas!

By Josh

March 9, 2010 1:07 PM | Link to this

If I were a UD fan I’d boo them too. Weren’t they ranked in the top 25 at the beginning of the season? This team should be better.

By Smart Money

March 9, 2010 1:07 PM | Link to this

What is a fan supposed to do? maybe you should stop buying the tickets. As long as you pay the price for this charade disguised as competitive basketball you will get more of it. The average UD fan has a very low basketball IQ and is really quite happy as long as they can see so many other people in the seats at the arena. I agree with Arch, I’ve heard many boos at refs in all the places he mentioned. I’ve never heard boos that could be interpreted as boos for the players, or even the coach. Most of the fans just can’t believe that the Flyers aren’t that good as a TEAM.

By Rick

March 9, 2010 1:04 PM | Link to this

So according to the DDN whether or not fans should boo UD is a bigger story the WSU playing for an NCAA bid tonight. They aren’t getting my money.

By Please Stop!!!!!!!!!!!

March 9, 2010 1:02 PM | Link to this

Please STOP!!!!! Stop comparing Wright State to UD. Wright State actually has a chance to make the field of 65, which means they actually have a chance to win the NCAA tournament. UD will lose TONIGHT or the next game against Xavier. They will be LUCKY to get to the NIT. Our new mayor changed the spelling of Dayton to Daytin. BC you can not spell the new Daytin without N.I.T. Ouch……..

By A Guy

March 9, 2010 12:59 PM | Link to this

It is hypocritical to say we can & should cheer them when they are playing well, but booing their poor play is not acceptable. This team has failed to do simple things, and I believe that it’s not the coaches problem. Coaches don’t miss free throws or throw away simple passes. You may not hear any boo’s at wright st, MU, and other schools; I don’t think you are going to see 13,000 people screaming their head off either though ( XU game). The flyers will have to hear the good and the bad reactions from the faithful. They may be kids, but they will have to take the good and the bad for every other situation in life. This lesson is one best learned with the help of 13 k “mentors”

By Mojo

March 9, 2010 12:56 PM | Link to this

I am a life long Flyer basketball fan and season ticket holder so have been through the good times as well as the bad. It would never occur to me to boo anything but the refs or opposing coaches/players. Our players always give 110% so, win or lose, I’ve gotta applaud the effort.

By jeff

March 9, 2010 12:53 PM | Link to this

Arch, Good article to get a response from folks. This blog will fill up.. I have been at Wright State games and actually even a Miami game were I heard boo’s. But you are not comapring apples to apples. The programs and crowds are different. I am not a big “BOO” guy but frankly this team and coach deserved it this season and especially that game. For 1/4 of a game they couldnt score. When in college basketball have you ever heard of that. Not even a free throw. You have to really try to not score for that long. This coach should be ashamed of the job he did this year. I am by no way saying he needs to be fired because that will never happen but he needs to do some serious self evaluation. Many can argue this program is exactly in the same spot it was 7 years ago. And as for not booing the players: I don’t agree. A fan has every right because yes they aren’t paid in cold cash but their basketball skills earned them a 120k pay check for their tuition. We cheer them when they play good and we have the right to pull em right back down when they are bad. No excuses this season they have been bad. And the coach, once January hits he becomes very mediocre so the boos I am guessing are more directed towards him. This coach has failed in 7 years to win in conference and to win on the road, two things that this program must do to take the next step.

By Matt

March 9, 2010 12:50 PM | Link to this

Booing 18-22 year olds. What class. The ‘entitled’ UD season ticket holder mentality disgusts me. Do you honestly expect a ‘big name’ coach to come here with displays like this?

By Jack

March 9, 2010 12:31 PM | Link to this

Nick, there is a reason why UD has been ranked in the Top 25 National Attendance for many, many years…our fans are very loyal to our team. Take your fairweather act back to Beavercreek, Cincy, or wherever. That crap does not play at UD. -spoken by the “next generation”

By age is no wxcuse

March 9, 2010 12:29 PM | Link to this

18 & 20 year olds are killing & being killed every day in Iraq. Boo Hoo to the dumb jocks with tender feelings.

By nellz

March 9, 2010 12:26 PM | Link to this

dis sum iiisssshhhhhhhh dey aint no real fans

By null

March 9, 2010 12:25 PM | Link to this

I bood becuase Im sick of seeing passes bounce off a players head cause he is not looking, sick of seeing player repeatedly get open for 3 point shots, and for Chris Johnson not playing much. This is the GUY who was the best player on your team for most of the season. See what riding your seniors got you, more losses. Never any boo’s at those other games? Give me a break.

By Nick

March 9, 2010 12:10 PM | Link to this

Has anyone noticed that the average UD fan is 60 plus years old?? UD needs to take notice, and they need to more aggressively pursue a winning coach, because the younger generation in this town won’t be willing to pony up thousands of dollars to watch a below average basketball product while reminiscing of how things used to be when the NIT was the only tournament that mattered. Our town has been hit hard by this economy and a lack of manufacturing jobs, and UD owes the people of this community thier “best effort”. A team to be proud of at UD, has the ability to boost the morale of this whole community, and yet they continue to put out a sub-par product, and people here continue to consume it, regardless of price. I don’t think UD should be naieve enough to expect the same blind loyalty from the next generation.

By texasfan

March 9, 2010 12:06 PM | Link to this

The coach is absolutely fair game. As a 30 plus year high school head football coach if we played poorly fans got on me, the coach, and hey I can’t block or tackle for them( the players), but figure that’s just the nature of the beast, never took it personal. The players in college do get rewarded, as stated, when any group stinks it up, when there was so much promise, people will be frustrated, and boo, and Gregory deserves it, and he knows it. UD needs a coaching change that’s for sure, booing or not.

By Nick

March 9, 2010 12:04 PM | Link to this

please Mike— typical UD fan, when things go wrong, take a cheap shot at WSU. Let me ask you this— why doesn’t UD play WSU? I’ll answer it for you— because they fear losing to the same team you’re trashing. Let’s deal in reality, as of this moment, the reality is WSU has a better chance of being in the tournament than UD. They also have a superior coach, and a superior point gaurd ( 2 things that mean alot in college basketball).

By Paul '98

March 9, 2010 12:03 PM | Link to this

I agree, Brian. I was at the game and my boos were directed at Gregory.

By flyer unfaithful

March 9, 2010 12:03 PM | Link to this

As a season ticket holder, I say if you can’t boo, how else do you voice your displeasure with the team and the way they are playing. The kids are being paid to play, just not as much as most pros. If you can’t boo then how do the powers to be at this once great program know how disatisfied most of the fans are with BG. You can bet they don’t bother reading these comments or flyer blogs. BG must GO!!!

By Paul '98

March 9, 2010 12:01 PM | Link to this

I agree, brian. I was at the game and my boos were directed at Gregory.

By brian

March 9, 2010 11:57 AM | Link to this

By definition, a team that has 10 interchangeble players is mediocre because that means there are no standouts.

By Mike

March 9, 2010 11:52 AM | Link to this

The real joke here is the line, “They don’t get paid.” Really? What do you call a free ride to a school that I paid $120,000 to attend? After watching this team all year, I’m pretty sure I could turn the ball over 20 times a game and shoot 50% from the free throw line, so yes, they deserve to get booed because they’re not living up to not only just expectations, but also to a free education because they’re supposed to be good at this game. And to everyone else, please knock off the Wright St. stuff - if they go to the tournament, it’s because they won their conference tournament, not because they’re one of the best 65 teams. Granted, neither are the Dayton, but as bad as the Flyers have been AT TIMES this season, there’s no way the Raiders are 19-11 if they play Dayton’s schedule. Try more like 11-19.

By Boo Hoo

March 9, 2010 11:50 AM | Link to this

If I paid as much to watch my 6 year old play as I do for my Flyer season tickets, I’d boo him too. What a disappointing year.

By Paul

March 9, 2010 11:39 AM | Link to this

Oh my… we don’t want to hurt the players feelings by booing?!?!?! I say boo and boo loud!!!! This team has too much talent to be playing like they do!

By not a bluehair

March 9, 2010 11:35 AM | Link to this

I have stated in previous blogs that it would only be a matter of time before they starting blaming the fans.

By Hank

March 9, 2010 11:30 AM | Link to this

Yep …. It’s wrong to boo the Home team ! This is your team ’ The Flyers ’ they’re trying to win and they’re playing great basketball . On any given nite , another Team can come into your Venue and win . Go Flyers !

By Chad

March 9, 2010 11:29 AM | Link to this

Your damn right its ok to to boo the flyers. I’m a season ticket holder and i love the flyers, but when you watch a team play the way they have been playing, after being picked to do so much in the Atlantic 10. Free throws suck, guards are terrible, to many turnovers, COACH MAIN PROBLEM. Should i go on, the fans have supported the team all year and have packed that place. I don’t go watch the flyers to watch them blow their tourny hopes in the last 7 games. I will be there tonight and if they play the way they have i will be given them hell just like the other fans. Bad play is unexceptable this late in the season.

By Ghost of Flyers past

March 9, 2010 11:27 AM | Link to this

I think it is wrong to boo your home team. It is appropriate to express your frustration by yelling at them to “get in the game” type remarks. They’ll get the jist of it. Boo the refs.

By Journalism?

March 9, 2010 11:26 AM | Link to this

This “article” is sure to be productive…this from a “journalist” who opined against ridiculous message board statements and commenting abuse. Everyone is disappointed. Is it customary to give the voice a few such focus? Oh wait, it is. Keep stoking the fire, DDN. Your just desserts await.

By PAT

March 9, 2010 11:26 AM | Link to this

Fire Gregory, No coach in the history of UD has ever allowed his team to underachieve like Gregory has. Crucial turnovers late and not being able to hit free throws was the key to them finishing 7th in the A-10. It starts from the Coach down.

By Jason

March 9, 2010 11:25 AM | Link to this

I was at the game on Saturday night and heard very little, if any, booing. Why do people have to be so hurtful and negative in these comment sections?

By Big J

March 9, 2010 11:18 AM | Link to this

Flyer fan - what are you talking about once again DDN is trying to bad mouth the Flyers. Every media outlet in this city is stuck so far up UD’s butt it’s sickening. GO RAIDERS!

By big J

March 9, 2010 11:16 AM | Link to this

Flyer Fan - waht are you talking about once again the DDN is trying to bad mouth the Flyers! Every media outlet in this city is stuck so far up UD’s butt it’s sickening. Go RAIDERS!

By Craig

March 9, 2010 11:16 AM | Link to this

Tom, I am in the camp that you don’t boo the players. They are still teenagers and young adults. Leave them alone. They are not professionals. They are still learning. But, booing a coach is fair game. However, in the arena, can we tell are the fans booing the coach or the players? I hope the former, not the latter.

By Mike

March 9, 2010 11:14 AM | Link to this

The coach doesn’t take the shots The coach doesn’t turn the ball over. You can blame Gregory for putting the players on the floor, but ultimately, it’s their responsibility to put points on the board. What a terrible way to end a season so full of promise.

By Joe

March 9, 2010 11:09 AM | Link to this

First of all, these players are getting paid. They receive FREE room and board. FREE tuition and if I’m not mistaken, a stipend. They may not be pros, but they are being paid in a way. Secondly, fans, many of whom are paying a lot of money, have every right to boo. But I think the booing is directed at Brian Gregory, who is a horrible late-game coach and whose offense is non-existent. This team is just not that good. Or at least, they don’t show it all the time.

By bub

March 9, 2010 10:58 AM | Link to this

Come on Arch, you’re late to the bashing. Why not just write something positive today rather than stirring up this negative stuff. I firmly believe the booing was directed primarily at the coaches, at the repeated “end of half” turnover scenario that they allow to happen with Lowery… the substitutions, etc. Let it go, cheer for the guys tonight, and hope for the best.

By FlyerFan

March 9, 2010 10:57 AM | Link to this

I was sitting four rows from the UD Arena floor Saturday and I didn’t hear ANY booing. Once again the Dayton Daily is trying to bad mouth the Flyers. Go UD!

By jon

March 9, 2010 10:46 AM | Link to this

Bad Employee = No Job Bad Husband = Divorce Bad Driver = Accident Bad Basketball team = Booing There a reprecutions for everything, when you do not do something to your best ability.

By the plain truth

March 9, 2010 10:41 AM | Link to this

I can say this. In all the years I’ve covered basketball games at Miami University, Wright State and Central State I don’t remember hearing the fans boos their players. Damn near shat myself when i read this from laughing so hard. No wonder you didn’t hear any boos, there aren’t enough people at those games to start a fight! People boo because they give a damn. When people aren’t making noise (see Above) That’s when you worry.

By no thanks

March 9, 2010 10:26 AM | Link to this

It takes some real class to boo college kids.

By Random Fan

March 9, 2010 10:18 AM | Link to this

Coincidently those three other schools do not tend to have many fans in the building to boo, or cheer.

By it may be wrong

March 9, 2010 10:15 AM | Link to this

It may be wrong but it feels oh so right. Arrogant fans, expectations that are for big programs (like Kentucky, Kansas, Duke, Xavier, Syracuse, North Carolina, Ohio State, UConn, Arizona, UCLA, Indiana, etc…) have poor post play and the out of control guard play make it hard to watch UD. The fans think that this is a top program. Well it is top 100, big deal. They think it is top 20. The Flyers need to GO ON THE ROAD AND PLAY GOOD TEAMS rather than wanting to fill UD Arena with no-names. Play Wright State for God’s sake. Heck, they will win tonight, go to the NCAA Tourney, and UD MAY make the NIT. Xavier has proven it is THE CATHOLIC UNIVERSITY of OHIO.

By jeff laravie

March 9, 2010 10:13 AM | Link to this

See my name? Tom, I am very disappointed in you the last 3 weeks or so, its one article after another just trying to stir up the pot please go back to human interest stories. And the statement about not booing at the other venue’s is a lie, I have been to the Nutter Center and heard boos, ( matter of fact the guy next to me was calling old Ed S. every name in the book)that’s just cheap shot reporting trying to get the comments…I am very disappointed in you I thought you were better than that.

By udgrad1999

March 9, 2010 10:01 AM | Link to this

It’s frustration Arch… how does a team so heavy with seniors play so poorly at the end of the year when they’re supposed to be playing their best? The blame falls squarely on the coaching staff for not having players ready for prime time. There’s no excuse for the way they’ve been playing—-turnovers galore, way to many missed easy shots, and don’t get me started on their free throws…

By Ballgame

March 9, 2010 9:57 AM | Link to this

1 you would have to have fans at your games to hear boos. None of those other schools have near the crowds UD does, ever. 2 UD fans hopes for this season were very high, I mean with 11 of your top 12 scorers back from a NCAA second round team, why not? 3 UD fans are as passionate as they come, they will cheer you on and will let you know when the team and coach have their head in their butt. 4 I would say the booing was %95 at Gregory. PLAY %#%@#%@#5@ CHRIS JOHNSON MORE!!!