By Anti-Beavercreek Shopper

January 26, 2012 6:00 PM | Link to this

This is exactly what the Fairfield Mall and the residents of that city deserve. Until they stop being racist and classist, hopefully more businesses will pull out…

By null

January 26, 2012 6:52 PM | Link to this

anti beavercreek shopper?why so blue?beavercreek isn’t racist.they just don’t want thugs and no good kids at that mall.nothing wrong about that.trash need to be in a waste basket.not at the fairfield mall.and for businesses pulling out?ain’t going to happen.no time soon……..

By not perfect, just right

January 26, 2012 9:26 PM | Link to this

Anti-Beavercreek Shopper- it’s obvious that you are what is wrong with society. No one owes you anything. No one is responsible for you but you. No one can overcome your ignorance but you. See? It’s all you. There are plenty of other communities for you to spend your time in, so please, stay out of ours…we don’t need you here.

By Opiniated

January 26, 2012 9:29 PM | Link to this

Maybe they should reconsider the RTA ruling. Better yet, maybe not, they don’t deserve our business.

By Bill

January 26, 2012 9:41 PM | Link to this

@Anti Beavercreek Shopper and “Opiniated”: Beavercreek does not want your business. Take the RTA to Trotwood. By the way, you spelled opinionated wrong.

By Neil

January 26, 2012 10:26 PM | Link to this

@Bill and not-perfect. I haven’t shopped in Beavercreek since the RTA ruling either. And I don’t want your racist and classist selves in my town either. Just keep Beavercreek a racist island apart from the rest of us and stay away.

By karon

January 26, 2012 10:35 PM | Link to this

When the Beavercreek mall was under planning, the residents of Beavercreek were told that this mall would bring upscale stores, what a laugh. First, upscale stores are only attracted to cities not suburban areas! Second, Nina Beane and the protestors were correct. They should have left it a field, instead of making it a field of broken dreams.

By Creek Lover

January 26, 2012 11:00 PM | Link to this

As for business leaving Bcreek…it’s just not going to happen. People move to the creek for the top state rated school system, safe environment to raise a child, and the excellent public safety services. If you need a police officer in the creek… they are at your door in a matter of minutes unlike other cities. We pay more for these services because we want that. We do not want or need the RTA and the problems they bring (ala Salem Mall). You come to the creek malls and you feel safe unlike the other malls. Thats because police and security keep a close eye on what goes on there. We are not Racists or elitist’s…we just like it that way.

By karon

January 27, 2012 12:27 AM | Link to this

Creek Lover, Actually the Dayton mall area has higher taxes than Beavercreek! Also during the power loss a few years ago, the Dayton mall had power restored very quickly compared to Beavercreek, also the water around the Dayton mall is better. I would rather pay alittle high tax and have better services!

By KES

January 27, 2012 5:28 AM | Link to this

The majority of people that ride the RTA are NOT thugs, trash, hooligans, etc. If they were how is it that the Fairfield Mall has much more crime than the Greene, which is within walking distance of a RTA busstop in Kettering? As far as the Salem Mall, NO ONE has come up with a percentage as far as crimes committed by RTA riders vs non-RTA riders. Let’s be real—-too many people(not all) that oppose the RTA in Beavercreek are stereotyping people to fit their world “view” of others. Is Trotwood sport teams or any teams with a high number of minorities going to be banned from Beavercreek league games next? Remember Beavercreek is the same community that banned a Islamic Center there a few years ago—claimed because it was for traffic reasons, but Beavercreek has been building more and more businesses since then.

By Maureen

January 27, 2012 6:02 AM | Link to this

Fairfield Commons is within easy walking distance of RTA stops. All you have to do is get off at Grange Hall, walk across a short and safe bridge, walk down “Pentagon” for a half hour (less if you’re a fast walker), and there you are at the mall with no danger. In Beavercreek, that counts as a pretty short walk.

By Maureen

January 27, 2012 6:04 AM | Link to this

Anyway, it’s amazing that what counts as an easy, safe, short, even luxurious walk in Beavercreek (sidewalks! actual sidewalks and shoulders!) isn’t good enough for people from other towns.

By tommy

January 27, 2012 6:42 AM | Link to this

the Fairfield commons mall is in Greene county. Why should a bus line that is funded by taxpayers of Montgomery county pay for bus service in another county?

By TSB

January 27, 2012 8:01 AM | Link to this

Total lack of planning and foresight on the part of Beavercreek. Now the “upscale” Greene is drawing basic retailers away from Fairfield, making room for even more tie-dye and sports memorabilia shops. Hope I’m wrong, but I think Fairfield area will be a mess in 10 years. And the city deserves what they get. Mallgoers, by nature, typically want the new and the trendy, including WHERE they shop.

By Fuss Over Nothing

January 27, 2012 8:37 AM | Link to this

Gap leaving Fairfield Mall is a lot of nothing. Stores have come and gone over the years and those spots will be leased by some other retail stores we likley don’t need either. Gap went to The Greene in anticipation of leaving Fairfield so they merely went for newer digs. And no, residents of Beavercreek don’t need a bus connection to Dayton. We already fund a Greene County bus system and don’t need to be lulled into eventually helping to pay for RTA’s 1/2 empty busses running around the clock by establishing another stop inside Greene County. And, we also don’t want to see the trashing out of Fairfield Mall which obliterated the Salem Mall years ago, and continues to make Dayton Mall an undesirable place to shop. Dayton Mall is useful only when you have no other choice to get something, and want to be aggravated by poorly planned roads. And face it, Greater Dayton is shrinking because we are letting our employment base slip away by electing mediocre leadership who believe we should tax ourselves into prosperity and in turn, chases away economic development due to the poor business climate.

By Good

January 27, 2012 8:46 AM | Link to this

Who wants to go to the mall at Fairfield now anyways? I haven’t been to that place since late 2009.The Greene is much much better and Beavercreek is not all it pretends to be. There is much to be desired. Go to the Greene or Dayton Mall.

By KES

January 27, 2012 9:16 AM | Link to this

To comment posted by Maureen: granted Fairfield Mall is walkable if you have the time and weather isn’t too bad, but busstop near the Greene that’s in Kettering is much, much, much closer than nearest busstop to Fairfield Commons, which is on Colonel Glenn adjacent to Wright State. Also, in regards to comments posted by Good: agree 100%. In addition to the points you made, within the next two years, the complex in Huber Heights will be complete—Fairfield Commons is going to lose alot of business they get from Miami County, Dayton and most of Montgomery County, Darke county, etc. anyway.

By I Miss Uncle Dow

January 27, 2012 11:03 AM | Link to this

I clearly remember comments the recently departed Dow Thomas would make about Beavercreek during his performances. The truth is, despite all of the high-profile people who have built their McMansions there, it is still a community of rednecks.

By GCR

January 27, 2012 11:06 AM | Link to this

Somebody correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t The Greene located in Beavercreek? I’m appalled by the banning of bus service at the mall, but switching to The Greene doesn’t punish anybody.

By Crime?

January 27, 2012 12:19 PM | Link to this

@KES Your point about the Fairfield Commons mall having more crime than the Greene is valid, BUT that is only because the thugs committing the crimes prefer an enclosed area where they can walk around and stay warm in the winter and cool in the summer. The Salem Mall would have survived if they would have taken the roof off of the place and made it an outdoor mall.

By CRIME?

January 27, 2012 12:22 PM | Link to this

@KES Your point about the Fairfield Commons mall having more crime than the Greene is valid, BUT that is only because the thugs committing the crimes prefer an enclosed area where they can walk around and stay warm in the winter and cool in the summer. The Salem Mall would have survived if they would have taken the roof off of the place and made it an outdoor mall.

By Beavercreek loves Green Buses

January 27, 2012 3:03 PM | Link to this

I always see people on the RTA wearing gap…..The crime was so bad at the Dayton mall that the mall kicked the bus stops off of their property that is a fact…also if Vandalia, Centerville, Oakwood had their choice RTA wouldnt be polluting their cities with noise and traffic either….the buses are empty in those areas….remember people this is about noisey smelly buses not race its those of you that make it about race that look foolish

By Pearl

January 27, 2012 3:10 PM | Link to this

Well it seems people keep holding up the Greene on a platter but do they realize the financial trouble they are in? Last I heard they had 10 stores that were behind on their lease by at least 2 months. Sounds like the Greene will go to crap before Fairfield will. You can put all the stores you want to in there but who wants to walk outside in crappy weather when I have 5 stores to go to? I’ll stick to the bus-free Fairfield.

By karon

January 27, 2012 4:00 PM | Link to this

The Dayton regions NEEDS to start working together with the city of Dayton! This thinking that the current leaders have are all wrong. None of the Dayton suburbs are doing well, and this is from the decaying of the city of Dayton. This is only going to get worse if the suburban areas dont realize that Dayton city and suburbs are all connected! if the city does well so will the suburban areas!

By Joshua

January 27, 2012 5:10 PM | Link to this

Remember that the GAP (namesake) stores as a whole has been struggling as of late and slowly closing stores throughout the U.S. and shifting its business to China. Also, if anything is killing stores off in the Mall, its the Greene itself.

By Miss April

January 28, 2012 8:03 AM | Link to this

Why don’t you all that been discrminated against in Beavercreek; why don’t you all have a good cry and complain to the folks down at “Fair Housing” to get yourselves all moved into free new homes in Beavercreek for free… That way you can shop all day and party all night! And if you don’t get exactly what you want: then you can form up a Flash Mob and simply take what ought to be yours… . Miss April

By KES

January 28, 2012 9:00 AM | Link to this

To Null, Bill, Not Perfect and Miss April: as I’ve stated before, most of the people who ride RTA (including myself) are NOT thugs, trash, hooligans, etc. that you are trying to portray us. We are people of ALL colors, races, religions, etc. who are “doing the right things”—- workers, students, people who just can’t afford a car right now, even people with cars who prefer to let someone lese do the driving while they relax. We have to pay a fare—-we DO NOT get free service. Heaven forbid if any of you would need a bus to get around to go to work, school, shopping etc. After all, cars do break down, even in the magical mystical world of Beavercreek.I may not be a resident of Beavercreek or the “right color” but I respect anyone regardless of their race, economics, religion, etc. and that includes their properties. While Beavercreek is a “nice community” so is my home in Montgomery County. The people wanting access are only interested in going where the shopping, employment opportunities, etc. are; I personally don’t see the facsination with Beavercreek other than that. The only color the residents of Beavercreek should be concerned with is the color of green—-after all, the more people spending money not only shopping but payroll taxes and yes even housing (it is after all the year 2012 not 1950’s Jim Crow Mississippi)the more the financial benefit to Beavercreek especially to the schools there (notice I’m not calling Beavercreek residents thugs, trash, hooligans, etc. because Beavcercreek schools are financially failing—same courtesy should be shown by EVERYONE EVEN if you disagree with them).

By null

January 28, 2012 11:24 AM | Link to this

@kes.i can post want i see.YES THE RTA HAS THUGS ECT.AS PLAIN AS YOUR BROWN NOSE ON YOUR FACE.IF YOU DONT LIKE IT MOVE TO DAYTON.

By KES

January 28, 2012 11:36 AM | Link to this

To Null: You are an insecure,whiny hateful person.You can’t stand that most people of ALL races, colors, religions, etc. are good—-no one’s perfect, not even you or anyone just because they are the “right” kind of people living in Beavercreek. Seems to me you got adequency issues! I doubt if you ever have even tried to interact in a positive way with people “different” than you. By the way I’m a very proud Dayton native with my very proud brown nose!

By null

January 28, 2012 7:51 PM | Link to this

@kes.i’m not insecure.no i don’t have adequency issues!i have never rode the stupid rta bus.and i never will.plus i drive a new truck that I JUST GOT AND I OWN MY OWN TRUCKING COMPANY.I MAKE MY MONEY DRIVING A RIG.I BET I MAKE MORE MONEY THAN YOU DO EVER IN YOUR LIFE TIME.I SEE MORE OF THIS COUNTRY THAN YOU WILL EVER SEE.

By ??

January 29, 2012 4:09 PM | Link to this

kes are islamic.is that why you don’t like b/creek.is your last name obama?????????????do you ride a camel??

By KES

January 30, 2012 9:23 AM | Link to this

To Null: So you’ve never riden on a RTA bus? You have proven my point that some (again not all) people, including you, are quick with the stereotyping. Bully for you that you have your own company—doesn’t mean that you are a better human being(or for that matter a worst human being) than anyone, regardless of economics, race, religion, where you live, etc. To??: No I am not Islamic—I am Christian, as is the President. I take it that you not Christian—-a true one would not be as divisive and have more class than you apparently do!

By null

January 30, 2012 12:57 PM | Link to this

@kes.so i am a bully for owning my company. i bust my butt to give my family a better life.so call me a bully!!!!!if you like it sure won’t change a thing.and as far as obama he’s no christian.i still say he is islamic.so i guess you have more class than all the world??????i bet you do NOT……DO YOU HAVE A JOB?????IF YOU DO AND YOU OWN IT YOU ARE A BULLY RIGHT?SEE YOU ON DOWN THE ROAD.10.4 AND IF YOU DONT KNOW WHAT 10.4 IS THAT IS TRUCKER TALK.YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.HOUSEWIFE. OR HOUSEHUSBAND????AND YES I TALK TO ALL TYPES OF PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY DAY TO DAY.

By fee

February 8, 2012 12:21 PM | Link to this

To: null and ?? - your comments are your opinions. Nothing based on fact. For that reason, it would be a great deed if you looked into fact. Fairfield Mall not having a bus system means nothing to me. The Beavercreek tax money spent is still not fixing Colonel Glen HWY’s monster pot holes. The cost to live in Beavercreek is very reasonable. It is a tall tale that Beavercreek is that fantastic. It is just inches from Riverside - which has plenty of meth, bed bug, and child molestion cases each year. The Fairfield Commons mall has plenty of rude shoppers who obviously are not RTA riders. Shoplifting still goes on there as well. It’s not like Fairfield is Rodeo Dr in LA or even Michigan Ave in Chicago. Get over yourselves already. Get facts. Get exposure.

By GatorGirl

February 9, 2012 12:47 AM | Link to this

I believe all the malls have crime. Most anytime where you have people spending money & shopping you have crime. Personally I don’t understand how the Dayton area & suburbs can support the current 3 malls we have & add to that the Huber Heights & Austin Pike new shopping centers. If we were in a booming economy & the majority of people had jobs available to them, I could see it but not in this economy. I think we will see a lot of stores shutting down, moving around etc. I don’t go much to the malls but do drive in the Beavercreek area 2 to 3 times a week. No I do not live in Beavercreek. I go that way to pick up my grandchild in Riverside & to different appts in the Beavercreek-Riverside-Fairborn area. There seems to be new stores popping up and others disappearing. Like what happened to the Old Navy store across from the Fairfield Mall? Then there is the new Home Store going in that same shopping center. Seems the same thing is going on at The Greene & the Dayton Mall. It is disheartening that it is 2012 & that there are folks that choose not to have friends that are different from them. Be it a race or religion issue. As for “the bad guys” (“Thugs” that makes me think I’m about to get whacked lol) do folks really believe they only exist in certain cities?

By Get Over It

February 9, 2012 8:28 AM | Link to this

Shopping anywhere is a privilege, not a constitutional right.If Beavercreek doesn’t want buses, well, so sad, too bad-deal with it and go somewhere else. I would like to have a bus running to the Kenwood Mall, but that won’t happen, so guess what? I go somewhere else. Buses are a good thing, but if a community doesn’t want them-DEAL WITH IT. I used to shop at the Salem Mall-it is gone. I lived 5 miles from the Dayton Mall and stopprd shopping there for a long time, until they cleaned it up. No, everyone who rides the bus is not a thug, but the mall going buses tend to provide transportation to most of the thugs. There are more important issues to worry about than buses to Fairfield Commons.

By Whitey-on-Da-Bus

February 9, 2012 11:04 AM | Link to this

People have no right to bully retail. If you don’t like it, don’t go. If there’s no bus, get a car or have a friend drive you. The community does not want the buses there. Keep your lib-tard “racist” comments for the next Dayton election.

By Terrell T-Bone Johnson

February 9, 2012 11:20 AM | Link to this

I’s agonna go to da mall an’ gets me sum wite girlz! then i gonna starta fite in da food cort, an call the see-kerty gards racist when dey stop it! then imma smoke a blunt at the busstop and throw all my trash around wile imma holler at some mo’ wite girlz! Booooo—eeeeeee!

By Suburbs Worker

February 9, 2012 12:44 PM | Link to this

The RTA hub at the Dayton Mall is exactly why I quit shopping there years ago. I am not against the RTA- I rode it for years from Centerville to Downtown to Wright State and back for hours every day. I’d rather shop at Walmart or even Krogers Market Fair and spend more money than have to look at and listen to the riff-raff thugs that the RTA has brought to the Dayton Mall!

By Whitey-on-Da-Bus

February 9, 2012 1:23 PM | Link to this

Remember the #32 bus? The one that drove people from the Northwest hub (Trotwood) to the Greene? That’s right, the Greene. It didn’t even go downtown! It didn’t last because the ridership was low. It was the RTA itself that was trying to take “poor black folk” (as they saw it) and get them to Greene county come h@ll or high water! So it is about institutionalized class envy, and now wealth envy. Greene doesn’t want buses. So there!

By Fee is Silly

February 9, 2012 1:30 PM | Link to this

“It is just inches from Riverside - which has plenty of meth, bed bug, and child molestion cases each year.” Soooo….bed bugs are a sign of what, thuggery? An insect infestation that has nothing to do with class, wealth, race or anything means what to you? That who ever has it is dirty? WRONG! Don’t worry, fee. You’ll have them soon enough. Everyone will. Don’t believe me? Check back in about two years.

By Leon

February 9, 2012 8:24 PM | Link to this

Sometimes freedom of speech is highly overrated!