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UPDATED with Gov. Kasich reaction: Dem lawmakers - recall plan directed at Gov. Kasich - Dem legislators to introduce recall legislation for lawmakers, statewide officials
State Reps. Mike Foley, D-Cleveland - a Dayton native - and Robert Hagan, D-Youngstown, on Wednesday announced plans to introduce legislation to allow Ohioans to recall statewide, nonjudicial officeholders, including the governor, and members of the legislature.
At a press conference, they said their efforts were directed at Republican Gov. John Kasich, who has low approval ratings.
“Folks are upset with the direction of the state,” said Foley, the brother of Montgomery County Commissioner Dan Foley. “Folks are upset with the direction of the governor.”
Asked about the proposal, Kasich said his focus was on fixing the state and he said remarkable things had been done during his first 90 days in office.
“I don’t pay a lot of attention to the other political things that are going on,” Kasich said.
Rob Nichols, spokesman for Republican Gov. Kasich, earlier responded to the plan, referring to statewide elections held every four years:
“Ohio already has recall elections every four years, and in fact, we just had one.”
There no are no provisions for recalling such officials in Ohio, but in Wisconsin, like Ohio the scene of a major battle over public employee collective bargaining, plans to recall 16 state senators are in progress.
Nineteen states permit the recall of state officials, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. Ohio law permits recall elections for local officials.
Because Republicans control the House and Senate, the proposed legislation is not expected to gain much traction.
Mike Dittoe, spokesman for House Speaker William Batchelder, R-Medina, echoed Nichols, citing elections every four years for statewide officials and every two and four years for legislators.
Dittoe also said that Batchelder believes the proposal might be in violation of the Ohio Constitution.
Kasich had a 30 percent approval rating in a Quinnipiac University poll released last month.
In an Ohio Poll, sponsored by the University of Cincinnati, also released last month, Kasich had a 40 percent approval rating, lowest for any Ohio governor at a comparable time in his term since Democrat Richard F. Celeste has a 32 percent approval rating in 1983.
The Hagan-Foley proposal, expected to be formally introduced next week, would require a recall petition to be signed by a number of registered voters equal to 15 percent of the total vote for governor in the last election or in a particular legislative district.
For the governor, the number would be 577,871.
If the petition is turned in 150 days or fewer before a regularly scheduled election, the recall question would be on the next regularly scheduled special or general election day.
If it is filed more than 150 days before the next regularly scheduled election, a special recall election would have to be set by the secretary of state.
If the recall issue goes to the ballot, voters would be asked two questions; should the officeholder be recalled and which candidate should replace him or her. The candidate list would include those who filed to be on the recall ballot.
There would be no primary election and if the official were recalled, the winner of the recall election would serve the rest of the official’s term.
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By Squirrellygirl
April 12, 2011 8:55 AM | Link to this
Beck is not formally of Fox News, he still has a program until later this year. BTW, for those of you who are rejoicing that Beck will be leaving Fox later this year, know that God will allow you to believe a lie and will remove the light from you if you refuse the truth when He gives it to you. I appreciate all of the information I got from the Beck show. I’m sure God will continue to reveal things to me as long as I walk in the light He gives me. I can’t say the same for some of you out there who have refused to greet the truth with open eyes. I get it that you don’t have a warm cozzy feeling when the world around you is destroying itself, but you need to be on the right side, not the side of the socialists who are intentionally trying to destroy our freedoms, our laws, our Republic. These lawyers who are manipulating our laws will have to answer to God for their dirty deeds.
By paul
April 10, 2011 9:14 AM | Link to this
People of Ohio and Dayton, do not believe for one second that kasich, portman, boehner or any other republican is in office to serve we the people and or do the right thing. They are nothing more than a wholly owned subsidy of millionaires, billionaires and multinational corporations. We no longer live in a democracy because of them, we live in a plutocracy. I for one believe we are far beyond hope otherwise how do we end up with people like the above mentioned in office? Come on, kasich a wall street bankster who wont even release his financial records? portman bush’s financial advisor while we lost 47,000 factories over seas and 700,000 jobs a month? How do you people look at yourselves in the mirror after voting for that kind of un-American, destroying us from the inside out kind of garbage?
By Perspective
April 8, 2011 1:19 PM | Link to this
@68grad His little rant made me laugh.Let the left wing rise up,all of us right wingers have the guns according to them lol.
By Squirrellygirl
April 8, 2011 1:15 PM | Link to this
“Hey, SQUIRRELLYGIRL! Your various posts confirm a couple things: first, you are a LAUGHABLE apologist for the discredited rantings of Glenn Beck, FORMERLY of FOX News; second, try to find some news from ANY other source and we might not laugh SO hard at you!!!!” I would, but the other media doesn’t report all the news, especially the important stuff. Fox News is balanced and on Glenn Beck’s show he played the videos where progressives were caught on camera making statements that out them as left wing radicals who in some cases are planning actual violence against those of us who won’t be nudged or convinced to allow socialism to take over in America. It’s happening right under noses, and no one is investigating any of it. No homeland security, no Attorney General Holder, no one.
By Squirrellygirl
April 8, 2011 1:00 PM | Link to this
What 68 wrote—it sounded like a threat to me. Hmmm. Which party threatens violence? Would that be the Democratic party—why yes, yes it is! Left wing radicals joining with Radical Islams to bring about orchestrated chaos…didn’t Glenn Beck warn us this would happen? Why, yes, yes he did.
By Leslie
April 8, 2011 11:28 AM | Link to this
68grad sounds like a self absorbed bastard.
By Republician
April 8, 2011 11:23 AM | Link to this
As a Republican I voted for the lesser of two evils, Strickland!! Kasich’s record spoke for itself, he has NEVER represented the working class, he is for the high UPPER CLASS buddies. Two of which he tried to give jobs but they could not meet the residency requirements. THROW HIM and his CRONIES back OUT of the STATE!!
By Demscanblowme
April 8, 2011 10:02 AM | Link to this
68 grad.. bring it on. The REAL working majority of this state is sick and tired of your parasitic tactics, and your poor results, that you always blame others and avoid any responsibility for. Do you think that maybe why you find yourselves in this situation? Kasick got elected promising to do what he is doing. Recall him? what a joke, but it shows how willing you are to intimidate and manipulate and violate the law just to get your way. It took us a awhile to wake up and recognize the damage you are doing to this state and this country. You eagerly and blindly support a cheating liar in the white house without question, to your own peril and ultimate demise. We are no longer intimidated, and will not be defeated by the likes of you. Who are the real greedy ones? Your threats and demonizing are no longer working, are they?
By 68grad
April 8, 2011 8:08 AM | Link to this
Kasich and all the rest of the right wing elite are in for a rude awakening if they continue their greedy ways.The Egyptian uprising will pale in comparison to what these self absorbed bastards will witness.
By jimbo
April 8, 2011 2:08 AM | Link to this
Wow, seriously, I think a true capitalist has to throw in the towel. I am having trouble wrapping my head around the idea that unions are in anyway unfair to small,large, mediocre government supplemented agencies. Seriously? Do we really need to legislate how people decide to negotiate with their bosses? If they do it in unison, why in the world would this be a bad thing? The real question is are they representing themselves in the best of light. Susurrations of the “little” people, make me wonder, is the more your say I’ll defy you? I believe this to be an Offspring song. Seriously, is a lame punk rock band really smarter that the average Ohioan.
By lol @ offizer decree
April 7, 2011 7:19 PM | Link to this
@ “offizer decree”- you sound like an old slave on a plantation. Did your “mammie” teach you to speak and write that way? Knock it off, white man.
By Devil's Work
April 7, 2011 5:38 PM | Link to this
Kasich is without a doubt the best governor Ohio has ever had.He is a brave and upstanding sole.No one like the teachers could tolerate him.Consider it a complement.Those greedy unions are the devil’s work.
By Prayers in order
April 7, 2011 5:29 PM | Link to this
At this point, while I am not a religious person, I must agree that praying may be our best hope for these liberal heretics.Truly scary that they can cost the taxpayers billions and blissfully dismiss it as their “right” to drive us into death throws in this state.No morals. No conscience.
By Prayers in order
April 7, 2011 5:29 PM | Link to this
At this point, while I am not a religious person, I must agree that praying may be our best hope for these liberal heretics.Truly scary that they can cost the taxpayers billions and blissfully dismiss it as their “right” to drive us into death throws in this state.No morals. No conscience.
By Prayers in order
April 7, 2011 5:29 PM | Link to this
At this point, while I am not a religious person, I must agree that praying may be our best hope for these liberal heretics.Truly scary that they can cost the taxpayers billions and blissfully dismiss it as their “right” to drive us into death throws in this state.No morals. No conscience.
By Me again
April 7, 2011 4:48 PM | Link to this
Yes, it’s apparently the “divine right” of the GOP to create billions for themselves, and hell on earth for the rest of us.
By Typical
April 7, 2011 4:20 PM | Link to this
To the people offering prayer vigils to try and summon God to change the hearts of teachers, please don’t. God does not work for you, you can’t summon him to do your bidding. And your disingenuous ‘attempt’ to appear compassionate is transparent to mortals, let alone a god that probably finds your deeds of inequity to be detestable.
By Just Wondering
April 7, 2011 10:51 AM | Link to this
I was just wondering if the politicians, (ie. Kasich) are willing to give up their retirment and benefits (socialist healthcare) due to SB5????? Teachers have made more money and paid less toward insurance and benefits than any of the rest of the public sector…remember, they only work 180-188 day per year. Everyone else in the public sector works 260-261 days per year (with a much lower hourly rate). Private industry generally pays more and provides benefits not given in public service…(ie. profit sharing, flexible schedules, etc.). Politicians have FREE government health care for life!!! Why are they so against everyone else having the same benefit???…and why are stupid voters against a benefit for their family??? Yeah, the American Dream….work all of your life, have the home, car, etc…..but don’t get sick!!!!!!! You have to lose everything in your dream in order to be taken care of if you happen upon a catastrophic illness…maybe not if you go into politics!!!!!
By coach
April 7, 2011 10:04 AM | Link to this
Consider me a Kaisch made democrat who voted republican for 30 years.
By We will pray on it.
April 7, 2011 9:35 AM | Link to this
We have started a prayer vigil at my church for the union people who have no respect for government officials, law and order, parents or students.We have addressed teachers who are corrupting our state and our children.They are examples of neurotic behavior.
By K@aol.com
April 7, 2011 9:23 AM | Link to this
Any teacher who complains about balancing Ohio’s budget should be fired.Also any union leader who tells teachers to lie about hitting children should have extreme disciplinary action and terminated.Unions have lost their conscience to greed.
By K@aol.com
April 7, 2011 9:23 AM | Link to this
Any teacher who complains about balancing Ohio’s budget should be fired.Also any union leader who tells teachers to lie about hitting children should have extreme disciplinary action and terminated.Unions have lost their conscience to greed.
By Beautiful Ohio
April 7, 2011 9:12 AM | Link to this
Kasich is Ohio’s savior.he is a brave man who is doing the best he can for everyone in Ohio.
By Beautiful Ohio
April 7, 2011 9:11 AM | Link to this
Kasich is Ohio’s savior.he is a brave man who is doing the best he can for everyone in Ohio.
By Recall Kasich
April 6, 2011 11:54 PM | Link to this
If this passes, it will pass with the voters, not those Godforsaken neocons in Columbus. Kasich needs to be recalled, promptly!!!
By Destabilization Lerner style
April 6, 2011 10:17 PM | Link to this
To Paul The Dems actually take joy in destroying Ohio’s economic viability for their own personal gain. It is more than ironic.It is calculated greed and destabilization.
By Paul1
April 6, 2011 10:12 PM | Link to this
I fully support Kasich, he’s doing exactly what voters expected. Isn’t it ironic that these Democrats are doing things that will only HURT Ohio? Democrats continue to make bad decisions, its a downward spiral…
By Cut the fat
April 6, 2011 10:09 PM | Link to this
Kasich is what Ohio needs.Anyone who does not want to save a billion dollars should move out.We would be better off.
By Alleycat
April 6, 2011 9:59 PM | Link to this
You idiots are still at this? I haven’t checked this post since yesterday. Sick and twisted you are get a life.
By offizer decree
April 6, 2011 9:39 PM | Link to this
yo yo, wat up peeps.i gota say dat dis guvinor is off da chain. he be actualy wuntin us dayton poleece ofiszers to pay for ouur healtf insurinse. dat is favertism fer da rich peeple.i never git a brake in anything i do. ferst da city trying to scru me bi makin me git a licence AND pass a backround check all in da same week.now dis guvinor makin me pay fer all my babbies birtfs. ware is reverind luvlace whin i needs him…
By Big Jack
April 6, 2011 9:36 PM | Link to this
The Gov is doing what he said he would do before he was elected. I’m glad to have somebody I voted for actually do what they said they would. This state will be much better off in the long run when businesses are actually welcome to come here and profit.
By SERIOUSLY
April 6, 2011 9:35 PM | Link to this
R U Kidding ME… This is for you Go ahead and split the country in two, here is my proposal… Dear Red States… We’ve decided we’re leaving. We intend to form our own country, and we’re taking the other Blue States with us. In case you aren’t aware, that includes Hawaii, Oregon,Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois and all the Northeast. We believe this split will be beneficial to the nation, and especially to the people of the new country of New California. To sum up briefly: You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave states. We get stem cell research and the best beaches. We get Elliot Spitzer. You get Ken Lay. We get the Statue of Liberty. You get Dollywood. We get Intel and Microsoft. You get WorldCom. We get Harvard. You get Ole’ Miss. We get 85 percent of America’s venture capital and entrepreneurs. You get Alabama. We get two-thirds of the tax revenue, you get to make the red states pay their fair share. Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent lower than the Christian Coalition’s, we get a bunch of happy families. You get a bunch of single moms. Please be aware that Nuevo California will be pro-choice and anti-war, and we’re going to want all our citizens back from Iraq at once. If you need people to fight, ask your evangelicals. They have kids they’re apparently willing to send to their deaths for no purpose, and they don’t care if you don’t show pictures of their children’s caskets coming home. We do wish you success in Iraq, and hope that the WMDs turn up, but we’re not willing to spend our resources in Bush’s Quagmire. With the Blue States in hand, we will have firm control of 80 percent of the country’s fresh water, more than 90 percent of the pineapple and lettuce, 92 percent of the nation’s fresh fruit, 95 percent of America’s quality wines (you can serve French wines at state dinners) 90 percent of all cheese, 90 percent of the high tech industry, most of the U.S. low-sulfur coal, all living redwoods, sequoias and condors, all the Ivy and Seven Sister schools, plus Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Cal Tech and MIT. With the Red States, on the other hand, you will have to cope with 88 percent of all obese Americans (and their projected health care costs), 92 percent of all U.S. mosquitoes, nearly 100 percent of the tornadoes, 90 percent of the hurricanes, 99 percent of all Southern Baptists, virtually 100 percent of all televangelists, Rush Limbaugh, Bob Jones University, Clemson and the University of Georgia. We get Hollywood and Yosemite, thank you. Additionally, 38 percent of those in the Red states believe Jonah was actually swallowed by a whale, 62 percent believe life is sacred unless we’re discussing the death penalty or gun laws, 44 percent say that evolution is only a theory, 53 percent that Saddam was involved in 9/11 and 61 percent of you crazy b*ds believe you are people with higher morals then we lefties. By the way, we’re taking the good pot, too. You can have that dirt weed they grow in Mexico. Peace out, Blue States
By CDouble13
April 6, 2011 9:30 PM | Link to this
We as Ohioans deserve to have a jacked up state. 48.7% of 8 million eligible voters voted. That means approximately 2 million (or roughly the greater Cincinnati area) selected this clown.If you are a public worker and voted for this man, you deserve to lose your pension and anything else this man takes from you. I left this state in 1995 when Ohio was respected in the country, only to return in 1998 with this state in shambles. Voinovich and Taft left this state a raped and pillaged state. Both of these clowns ignored court rulings that declared our state school funding system unconstitutional,rather than trying to fix it they ignored it. It is like a doctor ignoring a cut on a limb and letting it develop gangrene. I am ashamed of this state, and I acknowledge my governor is a clown.
By UD Barrister Boy
April 6, 2011 9:13 PM | Link to this
Hey, SQUIRRELLYGIRL! Your various posts confirm a couple things: first, you are a LAUGHABLE apologist for the discredited rantings of Glenn Beck, FORMERLY of FOX News; second, try to find some news from ANY other source and we might not laugh SO hard at you!!!!
By An observer
April 6, 2011 9:08 PM | Link to this
Dave made a sensible comment this afternoon about recall. Community college educators are at the mercy of the business men who sit in administrative offices and on boards of trustees.
By tiredofit.
April 6, 2011 8:52 PM | Link to this
you republicans can do all the namecalling you want but if sb5 repeal gets on the ballot i will vote to repeal it if recalling all the republicans includeing john kasich ever get to the ballot i will vote them out. so name call all you want. wont change my minds.
By Iconoclast
April 6, 2011 8:40 PM | Link to this
If our elected officials are actually serving the people (instead of their donors), then they shouldn’t have anything to fear from recall legislation.
By R U Kidding Me
April 6, 2011 8:21 PM | Link to this
Well, well the “give me” crowd, takers, the irresponsible - what ever you want to call the cry baby liberals sure make a$$e$ out of themselves when they can’t spend and oink out on someone elses money. Lets divide the country into halfs the liberals east of the Mississippi and the normal folks west of the big river and see who prospers and see who stinks. The liberals wouldn’t last a year.
By Quentin
April 6, 2011 7:32 PM | Link to this
What happened to the democrats saying that the losers of and election should sit down, shut up and be at the back of the bus for the ride? Just another case of what is good for the goose not being acceptable for them.
By judi
April 6, 2011 7:21 PM | Link to this
No, I think you guys in Ohio deserve Kasich!!!!
By Mike
April 6, 2011 6:37 PM | Link to this
Those idiots couldn’t stop SB5..Why are they WASTING their time and MY money???
By GetSomeEducation
April 6, 2011 6:31 PM | Link to this
We are not a democracy. We are a representative republic - and there is a good reason for it. Democracy is MOB RULE. I can’t believe people are idolizing what is going on in Egypt. Take a real look at what’s happening there. It is UGLY. Mob rule is nothing to aspire to.
By Fire Kasich
April 6, 2011 6:05 PM | Link to this
Where do I sign?
By Non-Moron
April 6, 2011 5:28 PM | Link to this
Democrats are absolute morons, sore losers in every sense. Amazing idiots, how can you look yourself in the mirror? What a sorry lot.
By Riverstink
April 6, 2011 5:26 PM | Link to this
Good job so far Gov Kasich :)
By TYGO
April 6, 2011 4:48 PM | Link to this
My God. The whole world has gone totally insane. None of these posts, or at least very few, make any sense at all. No wonder we’re in the mess we’re in. The people are nutbags full of hate and lacking in knowledge. Good God, get me to a desert island in the Pacific where I can just watch the sun rise and set and be done with a world full of mindless, hateful idiots.
By JS
April 6, 2011 4:34 PM | Link to this
Why not? Other states do it. Sure, it’s partisan, but name me any bill getting discussed these days that isn’t. Still, I find it humorous when politicians act like they have a mandate after receiving just over half of the vote and only 40% of eligible voters turn out, which means that in any election, an elected official is lucky to have 25% of the votes possible and they call it a sweeping mandate. Joke. It’s all a sales job, meant to keep you scared and you keep falling for it. So go on, keep arguing about conservative and liberal BS, the false dichotomy of the GOP vs. the Dems, and you’ll stay the butt of the joke. You’re all a punchline.
By too many Dumb People!
April 6, 2011 4:29 PM | Link to this
@Change I Believe In What does Obama have to do with any of this? Did you see Obama’s name mentioned in this article one time? I didn’t think so, you are exaclty what is wrong with this country. You have been brainwashed boy FoxNews so now all you do is yell your mundane head off, without even listening to what you are saying. Your comment would be appropriate if this article had anything whatsoever to do with Obama, but it does not. So you have once again proved that the American public is the most unintelligent voting population in the world. I bet your a Sarah Palin supporter as well, huh.
By Tucker
April 6, 2011 4:20 PM | Link to this
Democrats Please list: Lead (you tried but are unable) Follow (you cant) or get out of the way
By Don't let facts get in the way
April 6, 2011 4:15 PM | Link to this
Larry, Your sweeping generalization is untrue. The state of Ohio would not be collecting 4 billion (the annual tax shortfall) a year in corporate taxes under the old tax code. Medicaid spending in Ohio in 2004 was 8.8 Billion. In 2011 it is over 14 billion. In 2014, under the new federal health care law, Ohio Medicaid costs are expected to increse by 2.3 billion. Is the issue revenue, spending or both?
By too many Dumb People!
April 6, 2011 4:15 PM | Link to this
@Change I Believe In What does Obama have to do with anyof this? Did you see Obama’s name mentioned in this article one time? I didn’t think so, you are exaclty what is wrong with this country. You have been brainwashed boy FoxNews so now all you do is yell your mundane head off, without even listening to what you are saying. Your comment would be appropriate if this article had anything whatsoever to do with Obama, but it does not. So you have once again proved that the American public is the most unintelligent voting population in the world. I bet your a Sarah Palin supporter as well, huh.
By Help me Out
April 6, 2011 3:49 PM | Link to this
I think the word “Liberal” comes from the Latin word liberalis, meaning “Unable to comprehend logical thought.” Or do liberals just make us want to believe that?
By Change I Believe In
April 6, 2011 3:42 PM | Link to this
Top Obama campaign contributor in 2008: Goldman Sachs. Obama also took TONS of money from BIG OIL. Oh my…say it isn’t so!!!! But keep telling yourself that Obama is for the “little guy.”
By Squirrellygirl
April 6, 2011 3:41 PM | Link to this
“People do not always know what is good for them, governments sometimes have to decide what is.” That’s some scary thinking there. Scary people think like that. These are a minority, but they took over the Democratic party, these progressives. It’s like they came from nowhere. But if you do some research, you will see they have had these plans all along. Go to that link and see what they think, what they plan for us who don’t want to give up capitalism (the majority of Americans). The Weather Underground planned to eliminate 25 million Americans who would not be seduced by their progressive agenda. That’s some scary stuff. Now, we see the reality of all of these communist and socialist groups together with the radical left, people like Bill Ayers and union thugs. We can see how they are creating a Kalifate of orchestrated rebellions. They have the UN and Cass Sustein’s wife S. Power’s R2P and they have Israel on their radar and are ready to attack them. Obama is itching to attack Israel. He’s already gone into Libya without Congressional support. These progressives do not respect our laws, they manipulate them. They have plans for those of us who will not come in line. Get educated. Listen to the bloody rhetoric from the unions, from some of the posters here. Who is advocating violence? It’s not the Republicans. The Democrat party was taken over by the progressives. This is reality. This is now. Look at the map and see what Muslim countries are having rebellions, chaos, days of rage, unions and communists and socialists and left wing radicals, all arm in arm, and now in our country they are indoctrinating students to join them. It’s in the news, if you can find a news station that will report it.
By GoToThisLink
April 6, 2011 3:31 PM | Link to this
http://ironicsurrealism.blogivists.com/2010/06/10/video-undercover-fbi-agent-infiltrated-and-exposes-bill-ayers-weather-underground-genocidal-plan/
By lastmanstanding
April 6, 2011 3:30 PM | Link to this
Larry, come on. Look what Obama gave to Verizon, At&T and GE? The emperor has no clothes. What you accuse Republicans of doing has been blatantly done by Pelosi and Reed with Obama Care…read the bill.
By Perspective
April 6, 2011 3:30 PM | Link to this
To all the whiney Dems I will quote them a line from their fearless leader. “I don’t want the folks who created the mess to do a lot of talking. I want them just to get out of the way so we can clean up the mess… . I don’t mind cleaning up after them, but don’t do a lot of talking.” So all you Dems get out of the way and let the Republicans clean up your mess.
By Speechless
April 6, 2011 3:28 PM | Link to this
“People do not always know what is good for them, governments sometimes have to decide what is.” … … . Uhhhh… Ummm… Errr…
By Larry
April 6, 2011 3:25 PM | Link to this
Don’t forget that Ohio, just like Michigan, would have almost zero deficit to make up if the governors had not given huge tax breaks to corporations.
By lastmanstanding
April 6, 2011 3:22 PM | Link to this
Conservatives are learning the rhetoric ropes…….Remember this? “We don’t mind the Republicans joining us. They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back.” Gotta say it…Take your seat Democrats, Conservatives are driving now. Oh yea, how about this gem…”Elections have consequences”. Conservative Tea Party voters won. Let the adults in the room take over! Thank YOU
By RUKiddime?
April 6, 2011 3:21 PM | Link to this
“free choice is killing this country.” What?!! It was the yearning for free choice that created this country and the tyrants who now seek to rob workers of that choice are what is killing this company. Get some help.
By wvanpup
April 6, 2011 3:20 PM | Link to this
I am a Democrat through and through. I don’t particularly like the proposal because people are elected for a specific term and should not be subject to the whims and vagaries of public opinion. They should be removed from office only for an impeachable offense. Modern Esquire (responding to someone who complained about the cost of a special election) suggested conservatives learn how to read before spouting off, saying “In other words, a recall election would only occur when an election is ALREADY scheduled to occur. Therefore, the cost is ZERO, because a recall would only ADD to what we’re already scheduled to vote on that day.” It is advice he should take to heart, for if he did so he would also read the following in the article: “If it is filed more than 150 days before the next regularly scheduled election, a special recall election would have to be set by the secretary of state.” Clearly, some elections may cost and some may not.
By gopRnazis
April 6, 2011 3:19 PM | Link to this
Recall is the nicest thing that should happen to him. He is lucky if an unruly mob does not take to the streets with torches and lantern like the mob in Frankenstein did to that monster and forcibly remove that evil one from the buckeye sate. take a lesson from Egypt,Libya, Syria, Yemen,….Democracy will eventually rule the day and depots and tyrants will be purged. republicanism is a mental illness.
By Squirrellygirl
April 6, 2011 3:18 PM | Link to this
From that link I provided to the undercover agent who investigated Weather Underground: Media: You stated in your interview in No Place to Hide that you wanted us to “imagine sitting in a room with 25 people, most of which have graduate degrees, from Columbia and other well-known educational centers, and hear them figuring out the logistics for the elimination of 25 million people.” A lot of people have now had the opportunity to listen to you, and contemplate the horrors these people planned. Can you recall who these people are by name, and who the ringleaders of this plan were? Larry Grathwohl: Conversations regarding this occurred in Cincinnati, Detroit, Flint, and Buffalo. Participants included Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, Mark Rudd, Linda Evans, Jeff Jones, and many others. Media: Was this merely an academic matter to them, or were they serious about killing 25 million Americans that would not bend to their political will? Larry Grathwohl: I suppose you could consider this a purely academic discussion in that the Weathermen never had the opportunity to implement their political ends. However, I can assure you that this was not the case. There was an absolute belief that they, along with the international revolutionary movement, would cause the collapse of the United States and that they would be in charge. Nixon was of great concern and how his end would be conducted. This may sound absurd in today’s context, but the Weatherman believed they would succeed.”
By Concerned
April 6, 2011 3:15 PM | Link to this
@Sammy, maybe that is the problem, free choice is killing this country. Not everyone can get what they want. People do not always know what is good for them, governments sometimes have to decide what is.
By Squirrellygirl
April 6, 2011 3:14 PM | Link to this
Obama’s associate Bill Ayers was part of the Weather Underground. See link I provided. Undercover agent: “I want you to imagine sitting in a room with 25 people, most of which have graduate degrees, from Columbia and other well-known educational centers, and hear them figuring out the logistics for the elimination of 25 million people. And they were dead serious.” This is what the progressives have in store for those of us who want to keep capitalism and won’t negotiate, won’t be swayed by the progressives. Just know this.
By The masses are
April 6, 2011 3:11 PM | Link to this
This proposed legislation will never see the light of day. Hagan and Foley are no Don Quixotes. They wanted to stir the masses and they have succeeded.
By Michael
April 6, 2011 3:10 PM | Link to this
@ Leslie, Ohio is a bellwether state, not a conservative state, or liberal, it’s a pretty independent state. That’s why Kasich’s poll numbers are so low, because he campaigned on the middle of the road convincing the majority independents in Ohio, then veered to the extreme right. I advise you to get out of your street every now and then…
By DS
April 6, 2011 3:09 PM | Link to this
The hate mongers came out in droves to get kasich hired.He was hired to derail Democrats.I want to sign up.Also, Strickland was trying to get the state in shape after bush started the Iraqi war and dropped the funding to the states.This is the fall-out from that fiasco.
By Squirrellygirl
April 6, 2011 3:08 PM | Link to this
There are bad Republicans. But I have yet to remember when all of the Republicans walked out, moved to a different state, to hinder a vote. When I see how our laws have been manipulated to force an agenda, when I see bills passed when they were discussed behind locked closed doors shutting out the other party, I have to ask why are they allowed to do this and return like nothing happened? Should they be prosecuted for interfering with our process, the process they swore to uphold? Obama and his AG Holder are choosing and refusing to enforce laws. Holder and Cass Sustein were partakers of socialist groups that seek to overthrow our Republic government and switch us from capitalism to socialism, yet they won’t stand up and defend their positions. They do it in the dark of night, behind closed doors. They are scary thugs who associate with people who intend to eventually eliminate Americans who don’t agree. Please go to the link I gave you below and look at the video. This is an undercover agent investigating the Weather Underground. This is their agenda. Don’t be ignorant and check it out.
By Last one out turn off lights
April 6, 2011 3:06 PM | Link to this
Strickland would have made cuts himself…but the Federal “stimulus” money allowed him to put a band-aid on the budget and kick the issue down the road another year. Hey, why fix a problem if you can postpone some tough decisions? Isn’t that what politicians do? EVERYONE in Columbus KNEW LAST YEAR that this state was headed for a financial emergency in 2011. Now we’re here and suddenly politicians are acting like they didn’t see it coming??? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, call me a Liberal.
By Modern Esquire
April 6, 2011 3:05 PM | Link to this
Dear “DDN won’t let me comment” John Kasich is less popular than Dick Celeste was. That’s an objectively verifiable fact.
By Bob
April 6, 2011 2:59 PM | Link to this
Funny thing. I’m 54 years old and never have I been polled. I think they are a bunch of made up crap.
By Modern Esquire
April 6, 2011 2:56 PM | Link to this
Dear conservative geniuses complaining about what a recall election would cost: “If the petition is turned in 150 days or fewer before a regularly scheduled election, the recall question would be on the next regularly scheduled special or general election day.” In other words, a recall election would only occur when an election is ALREADY scheduled to occur. Therefore, the cost is ZERO, because a recall would only ADD to what we’re already scheduled to vote on that day. Geez. If you people were so interested in the issue, you’d think you’d at least READ the article for the answer before spouting off on it.
By Squirrellygirl
April 6, 2011 2:56 PM | Link to this
Associate of Obama (Bill Ayers) Video: Undercover FBI Informant Who Infiltrated Bill Ayers’ Weatherman Underground Exposes Their Plans of Re-Education Camps & Genocide. They estimated they would have to eliminate 25 million people in these reeducation centers. (undercover agent): “I asked, “Well what is going to happen to those people we can’t reeducate, that are diehard capitalists?” And the reply was that they’d have to be eliminated. http://ironicsurrealism.blogivists.com/2010/06/10/video-undercover-fbi-agent-infiltrated-and-exposes-bill-ayers-weather-underground-genocidal-plan/
By willBill
April 6, 2011 2:51 PM | Link to this
yes yes-paybacks are hell
By myself
April 6, 2011 2:42 PM | Link to this
Out of 81 comments, only 1 even mentions the real issue here: WHO will pay the estimated $4 million for a special election? I might be willing to accept this as long as the petitioners were required to pony up the cash BEFORE the election. However, pure democracy (which this would be) is the deathknell for any civilization. The great democracy of ancient Athens died because any action required a vote of the people. Should an election be necessary for every traffic law? How about every building permit? Or issuing a driver’s license? The governor’s office is right: we already have recall elections every 4 years. We live in a democratic republic, where we elect individuals to make certain decisions for us. Changing that would require amending both the Ohio and the US constitutions. Maybe people should begin to really consider the character, experience and perspective of a candidate before voting. I disagree with many of the decisions our current president has made, but I still respect him as a man and as our president. Unfortunately, a majority of voters in 2008 completely ignored the reality that he had never held an executive office, never been responsible for a budget and has a socialist political perspective. Open your eyes and do a little objective research BEFORE you vote, and there won’t be nearly as much whining afterward.
By r.e.s.
April 6, 2011 2:30 PM | Link to this
I still can’t believe people don’t know the difference between public and private unions
By Jack-Kaint-Reed
April 6, 2011 2:18 PM | Link to this
Whoa! The right wing nutbaggers are out today! Tell me Squirrelyfart and the rest of you Tea haters, what have republicans EVER done for you? Give me an example of ONE job created or ONE legislative accomplishment by republicans that didn’t redistribute wealth from the bottom to the top? You folks are blinded by your own hate, fear and ignorance to the true agenda of republicans, which is to destroy the inconvenient middle classes and consolidate power and wealth in the top 1%. Enjoy the ride to the bottom!!!
By Jack
April 6, 2011 2:17 PM | Link to this
Although if we had this legislation several years ago just imagine that we could have gotten Strickland out of the office before he killed our state. Lets all remember that the governer is forced to do what he is doing because our state is 8 BILLION dollars in debt.
By union/welfare babies
April 6, 2011 2:16 PM | Link to this
If you are independent and work and have a great credit score you love Kasich….if you are a union or a welfare baby/trailer trash you hate Kasich!
By union/welfare babies
April 6, 2011 2:16 PM | Link to this
If you are independent and work and have a great credit score you love Kasik….if you are a union or a welfare baby/trailer trash you hate Kasik!
By Dave
April 6, 2011 2:14 PM | Link to this
Beware of setting a precedent. If you recall the governor then you too can be recalled. That said, I personally think neither party has a clue as to how to fix the economic situation. Unions mean bargaining. Right to work, means right to slave. Where unions do not exist we are at the mercy of the companies. They are not benevolent. How many workers over 50 have reapplied for their jobs they have held for years? Unions keep business labor practices honest. It is not all about wage increases. Businesses hate that.
By BUBBY
April 6, 2011 2:12 PM | Link to this
You Democrates and republicans are driveing all us sane pepole crazy, have you all see the add where china has taking us all over, and we are working for them….Its happening right now so we will have no country unless we wake up and start playing nice….its no one party or the others fault it all of ours…we need to fix this before its to late
By Sammy Ray
April 6, 2011 2:04 PM | Link to this
I think the Democrats are blowing hot air. If the unions had not allowed so much corruption and the Obama Admin. to interfere, the unions may have been able to do what they were intended to do. I support kasich at this point and I am opposed to our President and his associates like Cass Sunstein, Van Jones, Rahm Emanuel, George Soros and many more. These people want to create a government that will control us SO much that we will lose many freedoms. America must fight to remain free and recognize a foe like George Soros when we see one.
By jimmie
April 6, 2011 1:59 PM | Link to this
Finally, we have an elected official that does exactly what he said he would do to solve Ohio’s fiscal crisis - and the dems/unions go apoplectic.
By Willy4
April 6, 2011 1:56 PM | Link to this
What has happened to us? There was a time, up to a year ago, when we lost an election we pressed on using compromise to move our state / country forward. We lived for the next election to press our own aganda and, if the majority agreed, we were victorious. Now we resort to sour grapes politics, hiding out of state rather that political discourse, and legal shenanigans to press our extremeist views. Meanwill, the common folk suffers and are divided. I fear for us…
By Leslie
April 6, 2011 1:53 PM | Link to this
We the people that hired Kasich have NO intention of firing Kasich. This has not soured me on republicans this has soured me on unions and democrats. Kasich supports the middles class, the lower class, the upper class. Kasich supports all the people of the state. Democrats only support people’s dependence. Democrats want you on the plantation, they are still the slave owners.
By @LL
April 6, 2011 1:53 PM | Link to this
“What I want to know, is How He got Elected in the First PLACE???? GOD HELP US ALL!!!!!!” Kasich got the majority of votes last election. That’s how it rolls in America. You get the majority of votes, you win the seat. If Strickland had put his house in order, maybe he wouldn’t have lost his seat. Recall Kasich? I don’t think Kasich has done anything worthy of a recall. He’s doing his job. Forget what the President said about how if we attack the unions we are attacking the working people. That’s a lie. We are not attacking public workers by reducing unions’ power. We are protecting their jobs because if we can’t negotiate their benefits, there WILL be layoffs and some public workers WILL lose their jobs. Even some of the public workers will agree they should be paying more for their benefits. I don’t blame Kasich for not allowing the unions to keep him from doing his job. We must lower expenses to balance the budget. Strickland refused to do it, so now Kasich is cleaning up his mess. That’s how it works in America. If you don’t like it, move somewhere else. But if you come to America, live by our laws. We need to jail the people who take high positions in our government and then work behind the scenes to change our government into socialism. This is treason. That’s what this current Democratic administration is apparently doing.
By Sour Grapes
April 6, 2011 1:51 PM | Link to this
Wow…talk about sour grapes on an epic scale. Strickland was inept for 4 years and never kept his promise to fix school funding. Did anyone introduce a bill like this during his time in office?
By william
April 6, 2011 1:42 PM | Link to this
Where do I sign up? We the People hired Kay-Sick, We the People can fire him as well.
By ohiodale
April 6, 2011 1:33 PM | Link to this
This proves Mike Foley is being paid off by the unions. You would have to be blind to not see the unions are all about power not the people. Why do you need a union agianst a government job? So liberals do not trust the government or coroporations but they do trust union bosses, lol.
By Leslie
April 6, 2011 1:28 PM | Link to this
Too funny. Kasich was voted in to do exactly what he is doing. You dems all whined and still whine about give Obama time. We protested his bailouts, we protested his health care, we protested his cap and trade. You called us names, lied about us and yes even physically attacked us. Now you stupid dems think we will vote out who we put it. You dems get Obama out of office and then maybe we will talk.
By Things that make you go hmmm...
April 6, 2011 1:20 PM | Link to this
Come to think of it…has anyone ever seen the Governor’s birth certificate?!?! He may not even be a US citizen!!! Show us your birth certificate or face a recall!!!!
By Paul
April 6, 2011 1:19 PM | Link to this
15% of the total registered vote???? Foley is NUTS. Any elected official would be recalled based upon just winning an election. It should be 80% of the registered votes.
By Navin Johnson
April 6, 2011 1:08 PM | Link to this
Obama plays as fast and loose with his with his UE #’ as it appears he does with everything else. Check the US Govt’s own website, United States Bureau of Labor Stats. As of 3-11-11 the “official” ue # is 8.8, including “discouraged workers, its 9.4, the rate also including “marginally employed workers, it is 10.3, while total # is 15.7…..to quote economist Jim Fitzgibbon of the Highlander Fund “Reports are seasonally adjusted to show positive, while the non-adjusted data is just awful”. Its a badge of honor to called an idiot by a leftist crybaby, who is clearly too intellectually lazy and too factually challenged. Do a bit a research next time. With all the info out there available to you, you should be able to easily find the facts yourself, if you want, but if you’d rather look like an a*s, that’s your choice.
By s
April 6, 2011 1:08 PM | Link to this
1, Pres. Obama needs to feed the citizens of the USA first. 2. Gov. Kaisch needs to be helping the working classes individuals instead of his high power friends. 3. Home owners fund the schools with property tax. Welfare people don’t fund anythings except take/take from from the gov. Lets’ overhaul the welfare system. 4. Leave the actual workers (ODOT) alone. They keep the snow off the covered roads, remove drbris from the roads & get up at all hours of the night to work.5. It is a shame that individuals lie to get elected into office?
By downwith unions
April 6, 2011 1:01 PM | Link to this
The Unions (professional welfare) supported Obama with the thought of free handouts. Now the shoe is on the other foot and listen to the Union babies cry. Go Kasich. SUPPORT SB 5
By Squirrellygirl
April 6, 2011 1:01 PM | Link to this
“If you want a dictatorship move to Lybia” um, the unions are there, too. They organized the global “day of rage” and the chaos going on right now. Public workers should not be represented by unions and the unions haven’t been allowed to represent public workers until fairly recently. Unions have lost a lot of their clout since they were the cause of shutdowns of automotive plants, etc. Unions have a violent history, and they shouldn’t have any influence in the public sector. If you want to find truly democracy, you will be hard pressed to find it outside of America; please note that we are a Republic, not a Democracy. Israel still is a free country, but most of the rest of the globe are not truly democratic. In America, we are in jeopardy of losing our Republic due to progressive (Democrats) rewriting our current laws to jive with their political views. They’ve been doing this in our schools now for decades. Now we see teachers unions encouraging students to participate in their “rallies” and, as you know, students can be easier to manipulate than adults because those teachers are taking advantage of their positions. Teacher should not be manipulating students to participate in political rallies that favor unions. Too much of our tax money is misspent in this way, and that’s just one more good reason to cut their funding. Another is the bloody rhetoric the unions are using, and their violence around the globe.
By karon doesn't get it
April 6, 2011 1:01 PM | Link to this
Good news, karon? This bill will never get out of committee… Sorry about your bad luck.
By realist42
April 6, 2011 12:56 PM | Link to this
I don’t care whose fault it is, someone needs to clean up the mess this state is in. Everyone will be feeling the pinch in order to get things straightened out. As for a recall, who is going to pay for that? Maybe the unions can send their dues to their local precincts to cover the costs? But wait! What will the union leaders use to pay for their boats and cars and such. Please, the Dems aren’t for “the little guy,” they are for the government. Example: The new energy plan from the President. How many “little guys” out there who drive a $600 beater to work can afford $4.00 or more for gas or, better yet, can just go out and buy that new Chevy Volt that is “green”? Open your eyes people! What better way to keep “the little guy” right where you want him.
By null
April 6, 2011 12:56 PM | Link to this
It’s time for all home owners to protest the unions and vote no on all levies.No money no power no power no useless unions.
By kls2002
April 6, 2011 12:56 PM | Link to this
It would be a huge mistake to recall Kasich, he is finally getting Ohio back where we need to be financially! Go Kasich! People are all caught up in the anger over the union bill, but if they take a second and read it, and think about it, they will see that Kasich and supporters are not asking that much! They can still bargain for wages, I mean come on people, we only want you to pay a little more for your healthcare and pension (which is still less than I pay)
By Democracy
April 6, 2011 12:48 PM | Link to this
Don’t you people realize were all union brothers and sisters. We live in a country were we get to negotiate whats best for us. If you want a dictatorship move to Lybia!!!!!!
By Squirrellygirl
April 6, 2011 12:48 PM | Link to this
My personal opinion is that the hc bill would go down if it were put up for a vote by all American taxpayers. But we have voted in representatives and if those representatives don’t do what you want them to do, you wait until next election and vote them out. That’s the way it’s done in America, but who knows…maybe them pesky sneaky Dems have already rewritten the rules to suit their political agenda…who knows…I would think that the unions are not as strong as they use to be, but they are very vocal and loud at that. They also have been known to do resort to violence and threats of violence. We’re hearing some of that violent bloody rhetoric now.
By KevinBob
April 6, 2011 12:48 PM | Link to this
Democrats want a deadbeat like Strickland for Governor. Democrats are the absolute most incompetent bunch of derelicts that can’t even come up with a budget proposal. It took these geniuses decades to come up with Obamacare yet they can’t even read what they signed. Democrats destroy, the GOP has to step in and fix things the way it should be over and over.
By FredW
April 6, 2011 12:48 PM | Link to this
Get over it cry babies. Like OBAMBI said, it is time for change. Kind of funny when it goes against the DUMS that they start crying like children!
By FredW
April 6, 2011 12:48 PM | Link to this
Get over it cry babies. Like OBAMBI said, it is time for change. Kind of funny when it goes against the DUMS that they start crying like children!
By KevinBob
April 6, 2011 12:41 PM | Link to this
Democrats want a deadbeat like Strickland for Governor. Democrats are the absolute most incompetent bunch of derelicts that can’t even come up with a budget proposal. It took these geniuses decades to come up with Obamacare yet they can’t even read what they signed. Democrats destroy, the GOP has to step in and fix things the way it should be over and over.
By Recall K-sick, please!!
April 6, 2011 12:29 PM | Link to this
Recall K-sick. It can’t happen soon enough! Do we have to have 4 more years of this?!
By Dave
April 6, 2011 12:28 PM | Link to this
Kasich is doing a GREAT job!!!! Keep up the good work!!!!
By Follow ObamasAdvice
April 6, 2011 12:23 PM | Link to this
As Obama says……..actlike grown ups, pacifier suckers
By Save Ohio
April 6, 2011 12:23 PM | Link to this
Ohio’s problems started with Celeste! Dem Gov Celeste is the socialist who let the unions takeover the state in 1983 with the collective bargaining boondoggle. Kasich is more popular than him because he’s fighting for the average citizen! “Kasich had a 40 percent approval rating, lowest for any Ohio governor at a comparable time in his term since Democrat Richard F. Celeste has a 32 percent approval rating in 1983.”
By Spending Dem unions
April 6, 2011 12:23 PM | Link to this
The Dems are haters and abusers .It is so obvious.They are willing to cost Ohio over one billion dollars.
By Not just you.
April 6, 2011 12:23 PM | Link to this
Dems are never able to accept that others do not agree with them. They have to create a referendum to whine even more.Grow up.
By Save Ohio
April 6, 2011 12:23 PM | Link to this
Ohio’s problems started with Celeste! Dem Gov Celeste is the socialist who let the unions takeover the state in 1983 with the collective bargaining boondoggle. Kasich is more popular than him because he’s fighting for the average citizen! “Kasich had a 40 percent approval rating, lowest for any Ohio governor at a comparable time in his term since Democrat Richard F. Celeste has a 32 percent approval rating in 1983.”
By Spending Dem unions
April 6, 2011 12:23 PM | Link to this
The Dems are haters and abusers .It is so obvious.They are willing to cost Ohio over one billion dollars.
By Follow ObamasAdvice
April 6, 2011 12:23 PM | Link to this
As Obama says……..actlike grown ups, pacifier suckers
By Not just you.
April 6, 2011 12:23 PM | Link to this
Dems are never able to accept that others do not agree with them. They have to create a referendum to whine even more.Grow up.
By not null
April 6, 2011 12:23 PM | Link to this
Ohio’s problems started with Celeste! Dem Gov Celeste is the socialist who let the unions takeover the state in 1983 with the collective bargaining boondoggle. Kasich is more popular than him because he’s fighting for the average citizen!
By stop the union greed
April 6, 2011 12:23 PM | Link to this
Dem Gov Celeste is the socialist who let the unions takeover the state in 1983 with the collective bargaining boondoggle. Kasich is more popular than him because he’s fighting for the average citizen! “Kasich had a 40 percent approval rating, lowest for any Ohio governor at a comparable time in his term since Democrat Richard F. Celeste has a 32 percent approval rating in 1983.”
By Save Ohio
April 6, 2011 12:23 PM | Link to this
Ohio’s problems started with Celeste! Dem Gov Celeste is the socialist who let the unions takeover the state in 1983 with the collective bargaining boondoggle. Kasich is more popular than him because he’s fighting for the average citizen! “Kasich had a 40 percent approval rating, lowest for any Ohio governor at a comparable time in his term since Democrat Richard F. Celeste has a 32 percent approval rating in 1983.”
By DDN won't let me comment
April 6, 2011 12:23 PM | Link to this
Ohio’s problems started with Celeste! Dem Gov Celeste is the socialist who let the unions takeover the state in 1983 with the collective bargaining boondoggle. Kasich is more popular than him because he’s fighting for the average citizen! “Kasich had a 40 percent approval rating, lowest for any Ohio governor at a comparable time in his term since Democrat Richard F. Celeste has a 32 percent approval rating in 1983.”
By Squirrellygirl
April 6, 2011 12:23 PM | Link to this
Yeah, Democrats care soooo much about the poor that they have their foot [Cass Sustein (D)]on issuing oil permits so that the poor people can’t go back to work drilling for oil, so that Americans are even more dependent on foreign oil. The Democrats care sooo much about the poor that Socialist Obama (D) took billions of American dollars that could have been used to help the poor here at home and gave it to Brazil for drilling and jobs there in Brazil, NOT here in America. As far as the Democrats care, the poor American people can just die already. You already have heard from companies that would have hired more people that they now will have to lay workers off because of the penalties assessed by Obama’s (D) hc fiasco bill, and of course those of us lucky enough to have jobs are now paying out the bazooka in hc insurance premiums that have “SKYROCKETED” since Obama (D) put his foot on negotiations with Republicans that would have resulted in a truly bi-partisan hc bill that would have been easier on companies and not assessed mandatory penalties. Those horrible Republicans who are trying to generate jobs (where job generation has been ignored by Democrats the first 2 1/2 years). We still see those pesky signs still littering our highways telling us that the “jobs” are courtesy of our Obama (D) Administra- tion—the jobs that aren’t there anymore…those shovel ready jobs that aren’t there…
By Navin's an Idiot
April 6, 2011 12:08 PM | Link to this
Navin must not be paying attention to the employment numbers that have been steadily improving during the Obama administration and were falling like a rock during the Bush administration.
By no dictators please
April 6, 2011 12:08 PM | Link to this
Why not let the people vote on a recall? If voters like what is going on then nothing will happen…if not then the voters get their way. Why put up with 4 years of crap? And can we vote to make lawmakers pay for their pensions and healthcare and cut their pay as well?
By wrong,itisyou.
April 6, 2011 12:08 PM | Link to this
Why are such crybaby bullies with a victim complex? This legislation would not distinguish between democrats and republicans. But, the republicsn have the most to fear though because they leave the biggest mess. When the populace sobers up and discovers the mistake they made then decent people will seek rightful recourse. I agree with the poster who knows that republicanism is a form of mental illness.
By wrong,..itISyou
April 6, 2011 12:08 PM | Link to this
Why are republicans such crybaby bullies with a victim complex? This legislation would not distinguish between democrats and republicans. But, the republicsn have the most to fear though because they leave the biggest mess. When the populace sobers up and discovers the mistake they made then decent people will seek rightful recourse. I agree with the poster who knows that republicanism is a form of mental illness.
By against dictators
April 6, 2011 12:00 PM | Link to this
Why not have the power to recall? Why wait four years if Dem or Repub are doing a crappy job? Why let any politician think they can get away with anything? Let’s have a vote and see if the majority likes what is going on. And btw, can we vote on cutting lawmakers pay and making them pay for their pension and healthcare too?
By Navin Johnson
April 6, 2011 11:54 AM | Link to this
JT, It’s funny that you credit Clinton for jobs created in his 1st 2 1/2 years of his Presidency, but blame Bush for Obama’s lack of job creation in his 1st 2 1/2 years of his Presidency. Just thought I’d point that out.
By gary
April 6, 2011 11:51 AM | Link to this
any way you slice it dice it the democrats are for the working man and the replubicans are for big business and the rich dont care what you say that the bottom line the way it is.
By bob
April 6, 2011 11:51 AM | Link to this
Recall elections should be a right. If an elected official can’t/won’t do their job let’s put it to a vote and let the PEOPLE decide. Let the best stay and weed out the bad. (I’m not saying this necessarily appplies to Gov. Kasich, BTW.) While we’re at it, let’s include the “judges and court officials” in this group. It would help if this gang of idiots were held accountable also. IF YOU HOLD ANY ELECTED OFFICE YOU SHOULD FACE RECALL IF THE PEOPLE ARE UNHAPPY WITH YOUR PERFORMANCE.
By NoItsNotJustYou
April 6, 2011 11:50 AM | Link to this
“is it me or does it seem like every time an election or major decision does not favor Dems/Libs they try to create new laws to change what the people voted for to start with?” This is just 1 example of how dems rewrite things to make themselves look better. They rewrote our children’s history books to reflect the kind of America that progressives could endorse. They had to take the truths out and replace them with half-truths and outright fibs in order to do this. They took out all references to Christianity and the Jewish faith and replaced with Muslim and Islam Radical stuff, of course leaving out the parts where they cut the heads off of people who don’t fall in line with their religous beliefs. They are in the process of rewriting our laws so that they can call the internet a utility and regulate it. To do this they go around our laws passed previously that said it was unconstitutional, and they are working on “regulating” what we watch on tv and hear on the radio, eliminating conservative points of view. They are in the process of rewriting our laws so that U.S. citizens will no longer have the right to bear arms, too. Taxpayers voted Walker and Kasich in to get rid of the wasteful spending and get our state budgets out of the red. Those who stand to lose the most are those who have been sucking the t*ts of the American taxpayers for way too long now. It’s time to grow up and do your part, or get out of the way so Walker and Kasich can do their jobs. Rewriting laws to suit your purpose is cheating and Anti-American. Unions say that things will get bloody…those thugs scare me and we should get rid of them. They are draining our country of our American Dream. Some of these people should be in prison…starting from the top office…
By ?
April 6, 2011 11:46 AM | Link to this
JT…..try hard to focus on today and not 12 years age. We have issues today that need to be dealt with! ahhhhhhh!!
By JT
April 6, 2011 11:41 AM | Link to this
From 92-00 under Clinton, jobs were created 4-1 compared to Bush. Bush gave tax breaks that equal to $400m in debt. Repubs wanna cut unions, medicare, education etc to offset the balance. Whether your a Dem or a Rep, that’s not right.
By gopRpigs
April 6, 2011 11:34 AM | Link to this
“Because Republicans control the House and Senate, the proposed legislation is not expected to gain much traction.” Big surprise. They know if they had to face accountability and jobs based on merit,…they would be out of a job and collecting discarded cans in stolen Kroger shopping carts. As it is,..the swine can hang on to their scams until the next election. Republicanism is a mental illness.
By Democracy
April 6, 2011 11:33 AM | Link to this
At least when Dems. try to get laws put in place. They ask for the support of the people. Unlike Rep. they just implement them.
By is it me or
April 6, 2011 11:25 AM | Link to this
is it me or does it seem like every time an election or major decision does not favor Dems/Libs they try to create new laws to change what the people voted for to start with? If they would invest only half of the energy into making this country great again we would all be better off!! Do your Goddm jobs!!!
By Cliff
April 6, 2011 11:14 AM | Link to this
1st of all the problems facing Ohio and the USA are not democract or republican but AMERICAN problems all this DEM/REP Blame game dose is keep the waters muddied so nothing gets done.we need to recall all of them DEMs/REP.
By Democracy
April 6, 2011 11:11 AM | Link to this
Four score and seven years ago,” referring to the American Revolution of 1776, Lincoln examined the founding principles of the United States in the context of the Civil War, and used the ceremony at Gettysburg as an opportunity not only to consecrate the grounds of a cemetery, but also to exhort the listeners to ensure the survival of America’s representative democracy, that the “government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.”
By birdseed
April 6, 2011 11:09 AM | Link to this
I heard the educator’s union is trying to get SB5 put on a ballot. This is how dumb these people (teachers no less) are. They think non-union Ohioans are going to vote them their automatic pay raises, double dipping retirement plan, and lifetime benefits while this state goes broke. Go figure.
By Leslie
April 6, 2011 11:08 AM | Link to this
Unions and Democrats are such peaceful nice people. ‘We Are One’ Labor Rally Warns GOP: ‘Thousands of Dead Bodies’
By Bill
April 6, 2011 11:05 AM | Link to this
We need to cut the wages of our first responders and educators so the Governor can hire more high wage, uneducated relatives of lobbyists
By Realthinker
April 6, 2011 11:02 AM | Link to this
In Wisconsin there are just as many Democrats on the recall list as there are Republicans. It cuts both ways. The Democrats need to be careful what they wish for.
By Democracy
April 6, 2011 10:59 AM | Link to this
These officials are employees of the voters. As their bosses why should’nt we be able to fire them!!!!!
By null #2
April 6, 2011 10:57 AM | Link to this
Yep Null, lets spend more money for an election, cause the Dumocrats can’t get the hint, that we The PEOPLE spoke back in Nov. They don’t understand We the PEOPLE don’t care about the heavy handed ways they did things. The state is going broke, so lets spend money we don’t have, for another not needed election. Yeah Null, that makes full sense to me. NOT! Cuts are never fun, however we as a state, can not keep giving raises to people, making more State Jobs, or in DC, Gov Job, then expect to pay for it with the tax from our grandkids.
By Leslie
April 6, 2011 10:54 AM | Link to this
What idiots! They people will vote down their stupid attempt at the ballot to over turn SB5. The people will gladly take this legislation because we want to recall the Democrats not the Republicans. Ohio is a conservative state. We are not California and we are not Wisconsin.
By Eric Stratton, Democratic Rush Chairman
April 6, 2011 10:53 AM | Link to this
Dead!! Bluto’s right….psychotic but absolutely right. We gotta take these bast%$*#. Now we could do it with conventional weapons, but that could take year and cost millions of lives. No, I think we have to go all out. I think the situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture on somebody’s part.
By The Happy Pagan
April 6, 2011 10:52 AM | Link to this
I have to laugh at a close friend that was a rabid Kasich supporter and now wants him recalled….a lot of that going around now
By dr. death
April 6, 2011 10:52 AM | Link to this
public employees cry to much,dont like your job quit,ever see that it takes 8 men and women to change a stop sign in ohio with breaks every 20 min,state dot workers
By Checkmate
April 6, 2011 10:51 AM | Link to this
This is more political theatre from Foley. The Democrats may INTRODUCE any legislation they choose, but it will only become law if it suits the Republican MAJORITY.
By Dr Zap
April 6, 2011 10:37 AM | Link to this
Democrats, the OEA, and public employees are such crybabies.
By Get Back To Work
April 6, 2011 10:36 AM | Link to this
This state has REAL problems that need to fixed NOW. How about getting back to work? Here’s a suggestion: Come up with a fix for school funding! We’ve only been waiting for a solution for 25 years!!!
By Disillusioned
April 6, 2011 10:26 AM | Link to this
Wouldn’t it be great if it went national offices too?
By Jack
April 6, 2011 10:26 AM | Link to this
I agree, gives the voters a chance to get some more democrats out of here!
By null
April 6, 2011 10:20 AM | Link to this
GOOD HOPE IT PASSES