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New plan calls for 15 casinos - Montgomery County could qualify

State Rep. Dennis Murray, D-Sandusky, on Tuesday, Oct. 13, introduced a resolution that would permit construction of 15 casinos in Ohio. It is House Joint Resolution 4.

If approved by supermajorities in the House and Senate, the proposed constitutional amendment would go on the May 4, 2010 ballot. To put an issue on the ballot, requires 20 votes in the 33-member Senate and 60 votes in the 99-member House.

The plan calls for:

*Up to six casinos in counties with a population of 400,000 or more. Montgomery County, with a population of 534,626, would be in this group.

*Up to five casinos in counties with a population of 100,000 or more but less than 400,000. Butler, Clark, Greene, Miami and Warren counties would be in this group.

*Up to four casinos in counties with a population of less than 100,000. Champaign, Preble and Darke counties would be in this group.

Voters in a county or city would have to approve gambling for a casino to be built.

A tax of 50 percent would be levied on gross casino revenue, with money distributed to the state, local governments and school districts.

Introduction of the resolution comes with Issue 3, a plan to put casinos in Cleveland, Columbus, Cincinnati and Toledo, on the Nov. 3 ballot.

That plan calls for a tax of 33 percent on gross casino revenue, with most of the money going to local governments and school districts.

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By Plain Truth

October 14, 2009 1:32 PM | Link to this

There is a song that best describes this that says, “What part of NO don’t you understand” Please answer this question and expalin to the voters of this state that have cast their vote four times and will again vote on this issue in Novemeber 2009, now they want to vote in May 2010, then the referendum vote for the video slots in Novemeber 2010. I suggest buying hearing aids or providing an interpeter for the proponents that do not understand the majority that have said no, no, no, no!

By mwm

October 14, 2009 5:53 AM | Link to this

People are going to gamble with or without local casinos. The state run lottery targets the poor. The “bingo halls” also aim for the poor. Casinos are for those that make an effort to gamble. Since it requires transportation and an evening out. More than a short trip to a convenience store. It would be great to have a casino in the old Arcade. Or, perhaps the closed Delphi plant. Another idea for the future is to have a casino near the proposed high speed rail stop slated for Dayton. Or, a complete entertainment complex with casino gambling, hotels, dinner theater and live entertainment. (concerts and Vegas style shows.) Perhaps even a dog track or Jai Alai. Why not? Other states and cities are gaining from these ventures.

By Hater

October 14, 2009 12:25 AM | Link to this

I can stand gambling nor will I vote for it. Vote this family buster down. Lets auction off the political positions and fill the budget that way.

By Robert Huden

October 14, 2009 12:22 AM | Link to this

And hopefully bring back some night life to dayton. One problem that will need to be addressed though is parking, which can be terrible, and expensive. And getting rid of the one way streets would be a great help in getting rid of some of the confusion that happens down there with people who arnt familar with dayton

By Robert Huden

October 14, 2009 12:20 AM | Link to this

I agree and have been pulling for a casino in the dayton arcade for several years now. I think its a great investment and would lead to long term survival for the acrade itself. I would also be great for dayton as a whole, and help keep some major conventions here that might be lost to other citys like columbus and cincinatti who would have the casinos. I belive it would bring more income and investment in the city itself with new restraunts and possibly shoping, and bring people back downtown again.

By Robert Huden

October 14, 2009 12:19 AM | Link to this

I agree and have been pulling for a casino in the dayton arcade for several years now. I think its a great investment and would lead to long term survival for the acrade itself. I would also be great for dayton as a whole, and help keep some major conventions here that might be lost to other citys like columbus and cincinatti who would have the casinos. I belive it would bring more income and investment in the city itself with new restraunts and possibly shoping, and bring people back downtown again.

By impregnantagain

October 13, 2009 11:19 PM | Link to this

My kids got i.e.p’s, so i get 3 SSI checks each month. I want a casino so i blow the checks. It’s my business, if the state want to pay me b/c my kids have no desire to learn. Don’t be a hater.

By Realist

October 13, 2009 10:49 PM | Link to this

The next Detroit is in the future w/o this plan. Heck, we’re already making Flint look like a great place to live!

By katanajoe

October 13, 2009 10:39 PM | Link to this

i agree with the SGT, putting a casino in the arcade in downtown dayton, just might save this town from becoming the next detroit. every business in downtown would benefit from this, and lord knows they need it. before dayton becomes a ghost town. and to the one that said “all we need is more drug addicts and people spending their welfare checks” news for you, the drug addicts have been here for years, both on the street and at the doctors office!! and welfare comes on a debit card not a check now days.

By Jrshaffy

October 13, 2009 8:47 PM | Link to this

Haha, 15 casinos, really? Why can’t we vote on last year’s purposed amendment again? 1 mega casino resort complex sounds a hell of a lot better than 4 regional outfits. The goal should creating a complex that will have people coming from not just around the state but from neighboring states as well. Once again, Ohio gets it wrong… sigh!

By Plain Truth

October 13, 2009 8:33 PM | Link to this

Why don’t they just place a permanant vote on the ballot every time there is an election and issues to decide so there can be a vote on these stupid casino issues every time. Better idea how about putting a time limit on issue before they can be redundantly put it back on the ballot again. But that won’t happen either they will add one more city each time so they can end run the voters that would vaot to put a time limit onthe same issue again, just add one city per voting and this can go on for a long time until the state has spent more money than it will bring in. There is a song that best describes this that says, “What part of NO don’t you understand” Please answer this question and expalin to the voeters of this sate that have cast their vote four times and will agaiun vote on this issue in Novemeber 2009, now they want to vote in May 2010, then the referendum vote for the video slots in Novemeber 2010. I suggest buying hearing aids or providing an interpeter for the proponents that do not understand the majority that have said no, no, no, no!

By rhymnrzn2zion

October 13, 2009 7:52 PM | Link to this

Jeremiah 4:22 “For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge.”

By MsScarlett

October 13, 2009 7:48 PM | Link to this

I’m quite excited to see how this turns out. I am all for a casino. It’s sad that people turn this into something ugly. They did say the no smoking rule wouldn’t fly..this will be very interesting.

By Curious

October 13, 2009 7:44 PM | Link to this

Why does casino gambling require a constitutional amendment? Why can’t it be permitted by an ordinary act of the Legislature and signed by the Governor? That way, if it becomes undesirable, the act can be repealed much more easily than the constitution can be re-amended. Hmmm, maybe I just answered my own question.

By reader

October 13, 2009 7:27 PM | Link to this

Great job Ohio! Keep up the stupid work. We really need more drugs and criminals and people playing away their welfare money. Way to go government. Vote NO!!!!

By VP player

October 13, 2009 6:28 PM | Link to this

I am suspicious about this. I wonder if it isn’t someone opposed to Issue 3 and the real purpose is to siphon off possible yes votes. Then come May there are not enough signatures to get it on the ballot after issue 3 fails. Presto, no casinos in Ohio.

By Thomas

October 13, 2009 6:21 PM | Link to this

I like the idea - but 50% tax? That might give pause to any company that might want to build a casino.

By DEB

October 13, 2009 6:00 PM | Link to this

We need some adult playgrounds. It’s always about the kids, hey I love kids too but we all got to get away from them. There is always this popular focus on providing kids with a place to go and play but what about the overworked and stressed out adults? Just think of the jobs for babysitters!

By scoobydo

October 13, 2009 5:47 PM | Link to this

Why was it bad to have one last election, and now it goes to 4 then on to 15? I guess big money ios supporting it now, that must be the big change in values.

By bricejones

October 13, 2009 5:35 PM | Link to this

Im with the SGT! Beautiful place to have a Casino.

By RETIRED SGT

October 13, 2009 4:59 PM | Link to this

My two cents: I think the ARCADE would be a perfect fit. Downtown location, hotels close, the Convention center, Downtown bars, Oregon District, Dragons games, Shuster Center all would benefit. Shuttles could run to the various locations from the ARCADE……perfect

By Kevin

October 13, 2009 4:53 PM | Link to this

I would gamble with those payouts. Honestly who walks in a casino thinking that they are going to make money? Uh noone, atleast you shouldn’t. For me I like to go to the casino’s to go eat, play golf, stay the night, and get away from the kids for the evening. Gambling should be a small part of it. Take only the money you are willing to lose!!

By Kevin

October 13, 2009 4:52 PM | Link to this

I would gamble with those payouts. Honestly who walks in a casino thinking that they are going to make money? Uh noone, atleast you shouldn’t. For me I like to go to the casino’s to go eat, play golf, stay the night, and get away from the kids for the evening. Gambling should be a small part of it. Take only the money you are willing to lose!!

By Rocky

October 13, 2009 4:39 PM | Link to this

The chamber and city of Dayton will fight the casinos. But, get the chamber and the Mayor a fat cut of the profits. Just like magic, they will love the thought of gambling in the Miami Valley. Bring the casinos into town… everyone wins.

By bwood

October 13, 2009 4:07 PM | Link to this

The soon to be old NCR HQ would be a SWEET casino. Maybe even flood the front and call it a river boat. UD already has enough buildings, I need some slots..

By Ben

October 13, 2009 3:53 PM | Link to this

Will someone explain to me why these issues need to be in the form of a constitutional ammendment? Can’t they be accomplished as part of regular legislation? A constitutional ammendment seems to be a bit overkill for something like this.

By dale1

October 13, 2009 3:45 PM | Link to this

Brunnegd is the only person that caught the fact that gorss revenue would be taxed at 50% which means the money won. I don’t think gambling is a good idea to generate tax revenue and I don’t think it will create a bunch of jobs which is the real issue in Ohio. Lower taxes and bring real jobs into our state.

By Jeff

October 13, 2009 3:22 PM | Link to this

I don’t know if the tax % makes any sense, but the distribution surely makes more sense than issue 3. Of course, there is no mention of who would own and operate the casinos. Being a constituional amendment, do numbers change as population shifts? If Warren county has a casino and grows above 400k, do they have to close? So many details to consider.

By tl

October 13, 2009 3:21 PM | Link to this

I’m all for allowing gambling in Ohio, but am voting no on Issue 3. I don’t like the idea of limiting to 4 areas with a constitutional amendment.

By dixiechickbs

October 13, 2009 3:11 PM | Link to this

Woohooo! Sounds great! A perfect location would be the old GM/Delphi plant on Needmore. Kitty Hawk golf course is right next store, casino could purchase it from the city and refurbish! Great proximity to both 75 and 70. Welcome casino!

By anonymous

October 13, 2009 3:03 PM | Link to this

Why don’t we just put one on every street corner like drugstores?! Who thinks this will really solve the State’s economic problems - not me!

By Heavy

October 13, 2009 2:34 PM | Link to this

put it in montgomery county not in the city. near I-70 and the airport.that way mayor mchat has no say.BUILD IT AND WE WILL COME.

By UrbanDweller

October 13, 2009 2:25 PM | Link to this

If McJoke gets re-elected, this will just be another opportunity for her to blow.

By brunnegd

October 13, 2009 1:28 PM | Link to this

Look at the proposed taxes on gross revenue, not gross profit. 50%, 33%! The casinos will make money, so something like 40% of every dollar wagered will be returned to the gamblers. Who in their right mind would gamble with those payouts?

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