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69 percent of Ohioans support health care public option
Despite angry speeches at town hall meetings and congressional resistance, 69 percent of Ohioans say a public option would improve the nation’s overall health care system, according to a new poll.
The Fall 2009 Ohio Health Issues Poll, released on Tuesday, Oct. 6, also found that 66 percent of Ohioans say if doctors were paid more to manage and prevent chronic illnesses rather than paid per procedure, the health care system would improve or significantly improve.
The 69 percent who say the public option would improve or significantly improve the health care system was slightly lower than the 73 percent who provided the same responses in a June 2009 survey.
The poll was sponsored by the non-partisan Health Foundation of Greater Cincinnati and conducted by the University of Cincinnati’s Institute for Policy Research.
It was conducted Sept. 16-26 with 818 adults from around the state through telephone interviews and has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.4 percent.
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By John Eve
October 8, 2009 5:44 PM | Link to this
I wish I could believe this poll. However, it looks like the questions were leading and biased. I support “Mega Groups” with 50 million people in each that anyone could buy into. The Government has not run any program efficently. How are your taxes…simple..straight forward? Noooooo How about Sarbanes-Oxley? Has that worked for you..absolutely not! If you want to have “masters” in your life, then let the government run your life. We are so regulated and controlled today that tomorrow we will be told what toilet paper we can use. OOps…that is already going through Congress now. My concrens are not so much about Health Care as they are with the government’s priorities. The Country needs business to pick up, and that can’t be done with anything the government has done so far. Our Economy is the most important issue, but our current administration is working on Cap and Trade, Card Check, Health Care Control, Afganistan, Terrorism, The Banking System, Regulating Business and Compensation, making business the enemy, taxing small business to death..and the list goes on. You have to ask yourself..what is going on? If you trust our Government to manage our Health Care then you really are foolish. It is almost as if insanity has taken over and all the smart people have left the building. However, for those of you who voted for our current Government leadership you frankly deserve exactly what you are going to get..a disaster._
By greg
October 8, 2009 4:17 PM | Link to this
For FYI, While I agree with you that noone wins win someone loses a house or goes bankrupt due to medical expenses, I also believe in personal responsibility and that we need not rely on a corrupt government to solve all our woes. This same government has constantly shown it is totally incapable of taking care of the basic needs of the people, let alone have a finger in and run every aspect of our lives. I have total sympathy for those that can’t help themselves, but none for those that can and yet won’t._
By Truth Hurts
October 8, 2009 4:09 PM | Link to this
Facts Roscoe.Want to see facts.I can fly but in order for you to believe me I have to prove it. Those companies are still in business._
By Roscoe
October 8, 2009 4:03 PM | Link to this
Hey Truth, Funny that 2 of the 4 companies you posted data for have had people convicted of cooking the books for personal gain. That’s the problem with unregualted Capitalism, it always leads to greed and corruption, just ask the Romans………_
By FYI
October 8, 2009 3:42 PM | Link to this
You can slant any poll by wording to fit a conservative agenda too Greg. Some people forget that we DO pay when people do not have health insurance or when they lose their houses and/or go bankrupt due to medical bills. Who do you think pays when the uninsured go to the ER? Do you really think having millions of people without health care makes us a healthy country? Do you really think think people losing everything makes us a strong nation?_
By Truth Hurts
October 8, 2009 3:41 PM | Link to this
Here’s something haven’t heard anyone mention and no matter what party you belong to the f act that Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid won’t allow the bill posted on the internet 72 hours before the vote or let alone Congress won’t have access to the bill before it’s voted on._
By greg
October 8, 2009 3:01 PM | Link to this
Jim, wealth envy is unbecoming of an individual such an extensive education. Your definition of greed is only limited to bankers and C.E.O.’s of insurance companies. So why not limit the incomes of all to just what they need to live on. Say hello Karl Marx._
By Truth Hurts
October 8, 2009 2:39 PM | Link to this
Jim I shouldn’t have to do the research for your.Insurance companies do not make much profit. As much as Banks/Oil for two examples. 3 of the larger insurance companies and there profit margain. Aetna Inc. (AET): Revenue: $32.67 Billion Profit Margin: 3.85% Net Profit: $1,257,795,000 Unitedhealth Group, Inc. (UNH): Revenue: $84.27 Billion Profit Margin: 4.14% Net Profit: $3,488,778,000 Tenet Healthcare Corp (THC): Revenue: $8.89 Billion Profit Margin: 2.63% Net Profit: $233,807,000_
By Jim
October 8, 2009 2:20 PM | Link to this
Trump, I never suggested that anyone receive free coverage. I don’t think it’s morally right for LEGAL, WORKING, INSURANCE PAYING Americans to be forced into bankruptcy or denied much needed treatment because a health insurance company is greedy. Capitalism is one thing. Raping and pillaging the middle class is another. CEO’s making 20 million a year while their companies deny coverage? We’ve seen out and out greed in banking and in the health care industry for several decades, and it’s getting worse all the time. Corporate Greed is capitalism run amuck._
By Sassy ll
October 8, 2009 1:39 PM | Link to this
Ouch! Sassy so clever.Will you be my Queen._
By Sassy
October 8, 2009 1:36 PM | Link to this
Truth Hurts…in the land of the witless…you are KING!_
By Look Sassy u too
October 8, 2009 1:34 PM | Link to this
Now who has more wit.Surely DDN didn’t think of this little trick. Keep drinking the kool-aid ladies,men whoever alice and sassy are.Obama aka Barry is a one term president.Reminds us Americans to much of Carter but worse_
By Alice in Wonderland
October 8, 2009 1:31 PM | Link to this
Alice it’s me Truth Hurts now look how easy it is to set someone up.Look at this email it was posted by you. Sassy I have more wit in my finger nail than you have or ever have._
By Sassy
October 8, 2009 1:16 PM | Link to this
Alice, Those that make up multiple blogger names don’t have enough wit to be a proper half-wit._
By Alice
October 8, 2009 1:10 PM | Link to this
Truth Hurts: So you’re all your own person that just coincidentally all have the same email address? And who’s tired of the government? All 31% of you?_
By Truth Hurts
October 8, 2009 1:07 PM | Link to this
Alice I’m my own person who post under truth hurts.You just can’t admit that because so many more people on here pose more creditable arguments than what you just posted.You want government in all your affairs move to canada or europe.Better yet stay here in the greatest country in the world and accept the fact were tired of the government taking control of evereything.Were not in wonderland anymore Alice._
By Rusty is lonely
October 8, 2009 1:07 PM | Link to this
Ombama/Rusty: Did you know that there are online dating sites you can go to to meet real live people? Or are you only interested in having conversations with yourself on here?_
By Ombama One Kooknoby
October 8, 2009 1:02 PM | Link to this
Hey Rusty, don’t you have any compassion. You must be one of those hard working Americans who have actual sacrificed and saved and created a decent life for yourself._
By Alice
October 8, 2009 1:02 PM | Link to this
Truth Hurts/Acorn/Jimmy/U Lose Jim/Sore Loser: You can’t make an intelligent argument so you comment under a bunch of different names? Or do you really just have multiple personalities? It’s one bad thing about this blog - it’s the same three people every day. Jim is right and some people can’t handle the truth. Whether you like it or not, whether it happens this year or next, momentum is in favor of progress. Throughout our history, every time our country accepts major positive change the crazies always come out and go extra batsh*t._
By Roscoe
October 8, 2009 12:54 PM | Link to this
To Enon : Good points you bring up but are you trying to tell me that those other countries don’t face the same problems as us????? To Hardworking : You say healthcare is an earned privilege and not a right, really??? so is driving yet the law says you MUST buy insurance for that._
By Rusty
October 8, 2009 12:53 PM | Link to this
Who do you think is going to pay for this “free” healthcare?? There’s no such thing as a “free lunch”._
By earl
October 8, 2009 12:26 PM | Link to this
Health care reform is a vague term. It can mean more government involvement into a person’s health and personal life; or it could just as easily mean less government involvement. Maybe we should protect the sanctity of the patient/doctor relationship. Maybe we should jettison government laws restricting competition in the health insurance industry. Maybe we should allow tax deductions to doctors who provide free care. Maybe we should be able to deduct from our gross incomes all medical expenses. Maybe we should tell lawyers that it is no longer open season on doctors. Maybe we should not be denied ownership of medical savings accounts. Maybe we should be allowed to shop for the best care at the best prices. Maybe medical insurance should mean protecting out economic well being from catastrophic medical conditions and exclude things like having your teeth cleaned. Maybe health care reform is really a guise for our bloated government to acquire even more power?_
By Trump
October 8, 2009 11:45 AM | Link to this
Okay already Jim, We hear you. You dont want to pay Co-pays and out of pocket expenses and be driven into bankruptcy. Give Jim some FREE health care, NOW. There problem solved. Oh, BTW Jim has this friend who is also not “fully” covered? Where will it stop and where did the money come from? That 20 million the CEO made wouldnt cover all of Dayton. Liberal sheep would line up for free care._
By Truth Hurts
October 8, 2009 11:45 AM | Link to this
Greg well said.Now I’m still waiting on Jim or somebody to tell me what the government runs well now…And they want to run 1/6 of the economy.Yes 1/6 fact look it up._
By Acorn
October 8, 2009 11:39 AM | Link to this
My name is Jim and I work for Acorn..a.k.a. A__holes what’s the diff._
By greg
October 8, 2009 11:38 AM | Link to this
Jim again using the old demonization of Insurance C.E.O.’s to make his crazy rationalizing of government run health care. So how much would you consider enough pay for that C.E.O., another government control ploy of socialism. Control individuals income. Greed is defined by an excessive desire to acquire or possess more than one needs or deserves. Only the hypocrite would want to determine if someone else deserves what they earn. I’m sure you don’t need your computer but you have one, aren’t you the greedy one._
By Harworking, Legal American
October 8, 2009 11:32 AM | Link to this
Jim, my last posted comment was for you buddy!_
By Jimmy
October 8, 2009 11:28 AM | Link to this
Jim owns his own business and is in favor of the public option that he’s waiting to dumb his employees onto it an or he doesn’t cover them as it is and this lets him off the hook._
By Jimmy
October 8, 2009 11:27 AM | Link to this
Jim owns his own business and is such a propionate of the public option that he’s waiting to dumb his employees onto it an or he doesn’t cover them as it is and this lets him off the hook._
By Hardworking, Legal American
October 8, 2009 11:20 AM | Link to this
Again, healthcare is NOT a right for anyone but an EARNED privilege. Talking about HARDWORKING, legal americans, do you not have a job? I am on my lunch break but you seem to have been posting your idiotic rants on here all morning. Do us all a favor and get off of here and start looking at the Classifieds!_
By Jim u lose
October 8, 2009 11:13 AM | Link to this
Typcial when someone is losing a debate they start calling others names.Sorry for that you lose and your opinion no longer holds water._
By Jim
October 8, 2009 11:09 AM | Link to this
Hardworking, Please explain where I’ve said health care should be free or a handout? You’re the typical stereotyping right wing idiot who is totally unaware of what is happening to WORKING AMERICANS. There are thousands of WORKING AMERICANS who are having to file bankruptcy due to co-pays and out of pockets. There are thousands of WORKING AMERICANS who are denied coverage or dropped because of pre existing conditions. Why don’t you try opening your eyes up a little bit more to the realities of WORKING AMERICANS, and spend less time on misguided, nonsensical stereotyping._
By Truth Hurts
October 8, 2009 11:05 AM | Link to this
That’s just it Jim.Government has a public opition avaliable or co-op for non-profit then this will encourage companies to dump there employee coverage and force eveyone on the governments.Man I swear somefolks don’t think ahead far enough only enough to see when the cheese arrives in the mail._
By Jim
October 8, 2009 10:59 AM | Link to this
Greg, Sorry, I don’t think it’s right for a CEO to make 20 million dollars a year running an insurance company that denies people coverage or refuses to pay for much needed treatment. Co-pays and out of pocket expenses are driving thousands WITH insurance into bankruptcy. Have you ever had to get on the phone and argue for hours about weather a test or procedure is covered, only to be denied by some adm. assistant? These companies are putting corporate greed ahead of their clients health and welfare. A government option, or co-ops, would provide some non profit competition._
By Hardworking, Legal American
October 8, 2009 10:56 AM | Link to this
To Jim and MWM-the reason others don’t see what the two of you see is because the two of you are idiots. Let’s get this one thing clear, health care is NOT a right but an EARNED privilege and as soon as people like you who expect handouts get that clear, the better off the rest of us will be._
By GiVe Me.. gIvE mE
October 8, 2009 10:50 AM | Link to this
People don’t die because they don’t have healthcare….that’s a myth/lie.If that was the case everyone who comes into the hospital cause they were shot wounded would be denied and then die.Stop drinking the kool-aid.Nobody dies cause they are denied healthcare.Already a law that forbids that._
By Jim
October 8, 2009 10:41 AM | Link to this
Pissed, You’re totally missing the need for reform. You seem to think that these corporate giants have your best interests at heart. There are millions of working Americans who can’t insurance because of a pre existing condition. Insurance companies also deny coverage, or drop coverage when an illness isn’t covered. The example you gave is good one of someone trying to beat the system. That’s one reason the legislation may have a mandatory coverage clause to avoid that very scenario. But, it’s unfair to assume that every liberal thinks this way. I don’t believe in handouts, but we seriously need health care reform. There’s too many Americans dying and not receiving proper medical care due to corporate greed._
By not counted
October 8, 2009 10:41 AM | Link to this
They only polled 818 Ohioans and they think this is a proper representation of the residents in Ohio? Who did they call, everyone that is currently on welfare? Did Acorn conduct this survey?They sure as heck did not call me or I would have given them a big fat NO for an answer. This survey has zero credibility. Give me a break. If you believe this story then you must be one of the stupid people they called for this in the first place._
By not counted
October 8, 2009 10:41 AM | Link to this
They only polled 818 Ohioans and they think this is a proper representation of the residents in Ohio? Who did they call, everyone that is currently on welfare? Did Acorn conduct this survey?They sure as heck did not call me or I would have given them a big fat NO for an answer. This survey has zero credibility. Give me a break. If you believe this story then you must be one of the stupid people they called for this in the first place._
By Truth Hurts
October 8, 2009 10:40 AM | Link to this
Ask yourself what does the government run well now……nothing.And those in favor of a public option trust them to take over 1/6 of our economy.Insurance companies all make a 3% profit maybe 4 on a good year.As oppose to Banks,Energy companies who make 8…9 % maybe higher.Reform it “YES” re-invent it “NO”._
By Greg
October 8, 2009 10:34 AM | Link to this
As usual Jim is using all those key socialist phrases such as “for profit” and “greed” to make his points. We all believe the health system needs to be revised, but in no way do I want the inept government bureaucrats involved especially with their stellar track record._
By Jim
October 8, 2009 10:26 AM | Link to this
Frankp, Please stop trying to paint a public option as a free handout. That’s not at all what it is. A public option is simply another choice a consumer will have to PURCHASE an insurance plan from the government, instead of a “for profit” insurance company. I for one, am tired of people’s well being place below CEO salaries and corporate greed._
By Frankp426
October 8, 2009 10:17 AM | Link to this
Yes comrade, we need government health care. We also need government housing, food, and jobs. I can’t figure out what to do without the government telling me. I can’t be expected to provide anything for myself, that’s outragous. If I have to provide for myself, then I will probably have to figure out how to make money, maybe even have to get a job?_
By Greg
October 8, 2009 9:44 AM | Link to this
All I have to say to the respondents to this poll is Baaaaaaaaaaaa! Baaaaaaaaaaaa! little sheep._
By Enon
October 8, 2009 9:36 AM | Link to this
Roscoe, any chance the WHO is at all biased? Any chance that our self destructive habits affect our life expectancy? Any chance our newborn fatality rates are related to poor choices by unwed mothers? Your point that we have the most technologically advanced health care only proves the point that you can lead a horse to water, but…_
By Bye Dayton
October 8, 2009 9:28 AM | Link to this
A health care option is needed. Too many uninsured. US needs to improve standards and get with the rest of the world!_
By William
October 8, 2009 9:25 AM | Link to this
Correction to the story: 69% of Democrats in Ohio want a public option because they want the government to control every aspect of thier lives. When are they going to poll Republicans?_
By Truth Hurts
October 8, 2009 9:23 AM | Link to this
Safe to say we already have a public opition…But wonder if these numbers are inflated or is it due to high un-employment or Democrats are doing excatly what they always done now it’s 10 fold.We’ll give you healthcare…a cell phone too while were at it a car and a house.Bascially hold your hand out and will give it to you in the meantime don’t forget to vote for us in November._
By Joe H
October 8, 2009 9:22 AM | Link to this
818 adults represents the “whole” of Ohio and where the state stands? Don’t think so!!!_
By Roscoe
October 8, 2009 9:19 AM | Link to this
To the uninformed who keep spouting nonsense about how our healthcare is “The Best in the World”, go back to school and pay attetion this time. The WHO (World Helath Org.) rates us in the 20’s for developed nations. Our life expectancy and new born fatality rates trail Canada, U.K., France, Germany, Spain and the list goes on. Being in Healthcare for over 25 years, I agree we have the most technicaly advanced system, but best in the world???? Not even close…….._
By Me
October 8, 2009 9:07 AM | Link to this
There already is a public option it called Medicaid and Medicare fix it and use it._
By pissed
October 8, 2009 8:52 AM | Link to this
Hey Me! Add up the money you and your family spend for stuff you can do without and you’ll have enough to purchase health insurance. Take some responsibility for yourselves. Get another job if you have to. What makes you think “we” will just roll over and let you suck up OUR money?_
By Jerome
October 8, 2009 8:47 AM | Link to this
@ Gregg, Spoiler Alert! We already have someone determining the nature and denial of our healthcare needs as well as guiding us to who we can go to for those services. The insurance companies do this all the time. Spoiler Alert #2! The government already has access to most of your private information, President Bush saw to that after 9/11, and I’m sure all those on the right here were happy to give up those rights to their privacy for the “War on Terra.” Do my comments mean that I support the current bill, no. I see a lot burden putt on the American Citizens without any guarantee that we the increase health insurance costs will slow, and those things that are being put in to help the consumer do not take effect soon enough._
By Jerome
October 8, 2009 8:47 AM | Link to this
@ Gregg, Spoiler Alert! We already have someone determining the nature and denial of our healthcare needs as well as guiding us to who we can go to for those services. The insurance companies do this all the time. Spoiler Alert #2! The government already has access to most of your private information, President Bush saw to that after 9/11, and I’m sure all those on the right here were happy to give up those rights to their privacy for the “War on Terra.” Do my comments mean that I support the current bill, no. I see a lot burden putt on the American Citizens without any guarantee that we the increase health insurance costs will slow, and those things that are being put in to help the consumer do not take effect soon enough._
By Me
October 8, 2009 8:46 AM | Link to this
I actually was called for a poll just yesterday. I’m an employed wife, mother, and grandmother. I like my coverage, but I am in the 69% who wants health care coverage for EVERYONE: my daughter and son-in-law and my grandson who can’t afford the insurance offerred by my son-in-law’s employer; my unmarried sister who was laid off; my neighbor who has a pre-existing condition and was turned down at age 27. It’s not about me, it’s about what is right._
By Pissed
October 8, 2009 8:41 AM | Link to this
Liberal dupes. Duped by whiny-assed liberal politicians. Friend that makes good money freelancing for the past 20 years refuses to purchase even the barest of health insurance. He prefers to dine out at the finest restaurants, socks away a little for retirement, subscribes to several magazines … does his thing, but refuses to purchase insurance. Hell, he use to sell insurance so he’s not ignorant about it. Then he has a serious operation costing in excess of $20 grand. He spends days writing letters and scheming how to get out of paying. Hospital reduces the amount for him and he still gets pissed because he has to pay anything. Yep, he wants you and I t pay it. He works the system. Knows that if he holds out long enough he can get away without paying. Sure, he’s a liberal and a prime example of the millions of Americans that live a parasitic life. No American goes without the best healthcare in the world. Problem is, they want you and I to pay for them. They drank the kool-aid, swallowed the big government lie that they “deserve” public insurance and every other entitlement they can get. I tell you what - put these people out in the wild to fend for themselves and they are in big trouble. No individual responsibility - it’s always someone else’s fault. Always looking for someone to blame when things get tough for them. I actually feel sorry for them. Very little empathy ‘tho. I just wish there was a way to show them how satisfying it is to embrace individual rights, liberty, right of choice, self-sufficiency, self-motivation. And you know, most all the folks I know with these qualities feel great empathy for folks, that through no fault of their own,and by circumstance, fall on hard times and are willing to extend a helping hand … and do so. Frankly, folks, I am not quite ready to give up, but have decided to plan my eventual “dropping out” of this society. Head for the hills and hunker down. I have not given up on the idea that there just might be enough decent pols left in D.C to turn this thing around. Frankly, public health care is doomed despite the propaganda of these slanted, biased polls and staged physician events around the country. My 2 cents._
By William Guthrie
October 8, 2009 8:37 AM | Link to this
I have been in the health-care field since 1980 and I can tell you that if there is a public option, prepare for a healthy increase in your health insurance rates. When insurance is mandated (required), it will help. But the number of claims will soar, and the system just won’t be able to absorb the losses. Too bad. The alternative of increased usage of HSAs, tax deductions and emphasis on managing waste would have done the trick. Too late now. Let’s just hope Obama is kicked out in 3 1/2 years._
By The Truthe
October 8, 2009 8:28 AM | Link to this
MAYBE MY COMMENT WON’T GET PULLED BY DDN BUT HERE WAS THE FIRST POST YESTERDAY. OF COURSE 69% OF OHIOANS WHANT THIS. THEY ARE THE FREELOADERS WHO HAVE BEEN BRED INTO THE CULTURE OF DEPENDANCY. THEY “EXPECT” EVERYTHING TO BE FREE AND INSTANTANEOUS. MAKES ME PROUD TO BE A DEMOCRAT._
By fed up
October 8, 2009 8:25 AM | Link to this
I love the way the right wing fanatics that post here are always saying”just because I disagree with Obama doesn’t make me a racist.” Then they go and use a term like “porchmonkey” The majority of people voted for Obama because they want change, and the change the majority want is health care reform. If you are one of the idiots that want to keep giving your money to insurance execs…get over it._
By ch
October 8, 2009 8:23 AM | Link to this
I have a couple of questions 1- If there is so much competition between insurance companies why are there only 2 major providers in the Dayton area? 2- If there are other smaller providers why would anyone go to them since they don’t provide the same access and coverage that the bigger companies do? 3-Why can drug companies sell certain medicines out of the country for much less than they sell them for in this country? I would agree that Tort reform is a much needed addition to any health care bill._
By daniel
October 8, 2009 8:08 AM | Link to this
porchmonkey lies!!all that voted for obama needs to lose all they have!!!!!!_
By daniel
October 8, 2009 8:07 AM | Link to this
porchmonkey lies!!_
By Jack
October 8, 2009 8:04 AM | Link to this
Jim, your comments are tired, wrong and just plain stupid. You wallow in victim hood denouncing ins companies when you don’t have your facts correct. Look up health ins profits by reviewing their financial. They don’t make the profits you attribute to them. You are just one more ignorant liberal demonizing the rich and companies so you can get a freebe. Grow up!_
By Toasty
October 8, 2009 7:25 AM | Link to this
Thats a liberals Lie_
By Pete
October 8, 2009 7:17 AM | Link to this
I’ve still yet to see any of these public polls offered my way because I’m not included in that bogus figure of 69%. Must be by the Liberal count, huh?_
By Doomed
October 8, 2009 7:03 AM | Link to this
If these numbers were true in this poll our country would be doomed. I meet NOONE who wants a national health care plan. 85% like their present coverage. US health care is expensive since we use our insurance to pay for every single thing instead of just using it for the big ticket items, thus driving up the costs radically. Why change the whole system just to cover those who are 1) not willing to buy insurance or 2) getting coverage free anyway since they are illegals?_
By Mary Ann at the lake
October 8, 2009 6:40 AM | Link to this
Do you people understand we are going into debt for almost a trillion dollars to cover a few people who will not buy health insurance. There is a lot of different health plans available now. Who thinks the people that are running our post office and railroad system etc. are going to lower the present price of health insurance. You have got to be dreaming!_
By Mary Ann
October 8, 2009 6:39 AM | Link to this
Do you people understand we are going into debt for almost a trillion dollars to cover a few people who will not buy health insurance. There is a lot of different health plans available now. Who thinks the people that are running our post office and railroad system etc. are going to lower the present price of health insurance. You have got to be dreaming!_
By Mary Ann
October 8, 2009 6:39 AM | Link to this
Do you people understand we are going into debt for almost a trillion dollars to cover a few people who will not buy health insurance. There is a lot of different health plans available now. Who thinks the people that are running our post office and railroad system etc. are going to lower the present price of health insurance. You have got to be dreaming!_
By Impeach Soetoro
October 8, 2009 6:35 AM | Link to this
Barack Hussien Obama MmmmmMmmmm Barack Hussien Obama MmmmmMmmmm Whoever wrote this article filled is like Gov. Strickland, Senator Brown and the all mainstream state controlled news media ABC, CBS,CNN, NBC and PBS all have your noses up Soetoro aka Obama lying sticking b** you know what. What a confirmed bunch of lies. Come 2010 and 2012 any politian, democrat or republician or independent who votes or supports this bill or any of Obama’s lies will not be re-elected. By that time Soetoro aka Obama will be impeached & removed And I firmly say it to close: IMPEACH & REMOVE SOETORO AKA OBAMA ASP_
By Revoltiscoming
October 8, 2009 6:09 AM | Link to this
So tell us Earl Painfull, Jimis silly how do we fix the problem or do we just let it ride. Without the middleclass there is no buffer so keep destroying us. Who the F do you think built this country. You MFers got it coming and when the revolt comes I hope your the first ones that get tarred and feathered._
By Gregg Nicholl
October 8, 2009 5:58 AM | Link to this
The poll results are extremely suspect. 2. If true, that means Ohioans are willing to allow a govt. bureauacray to determine the nature or denial of their healthcare needs. It means that Ohioans are willing to allow a govt. bureuacracy direct real-time access to their bank accounts and private information. But most of all it would mean that Ohioans are willing to give up individual freedom and liberty for the “collective.” If these poll results were to be true, Ohio and America are doomed. May God help us!_
By mwm
October 8, 2009 5:49 AM | Link to this
The concept of health care reform is both a moral and economic issue. The health insurance industry has become an immoral and unethical business preying on the sick and injured. Some governmental control will be required to reign them in and bring costs of insurance and copays down to an affordable level for working Americans. When serious medical conditions affect a family, many times over the copays and out of pocket expenses cause financial hardship and, in many cases, Bankruptcy or home foreclosure. When corporations decide that they will no longer cover retirees, the retirees end up on Medicare. The French, British and Canadian health care systems are ranked above ours. (France being 1, and us 37th.) The Europeans have public and private options mixed. Of course, the health insurance lobby does not want a public option and, will use media and lies as a method to sway the American public. But, it is not working. A majority of Americans favor a public option. And face it, Reagan is dead. The right wing trying to use to old lines of “govt. is the problem”. does not work. In the past eight years, we have seen a lie based war in Iraq, (they probably have a public health system), and, a failure of the Markets under Bush, (who bailed them out.) Socialism for the wealthy and nothing for the middle class. Health care reform will happen. And, the insurance lobby better get used to it._
By mike
October 8, 2009 5:12 AM | Link to this
im a retired union carpenter of 37yrs.it cost me 900.oo plus a month for the unions lousy insurance plan through humana that is not accepted through premier health network which is MVH the unions use this as a means of robbing my retirement check they process!!! I ASHAMED OF WHAT THIS UNION HAS TURNED INTO_
By Me again
October 8, 2009 12:39 AM | Link to this
People aren’t against reforms of the insurance problems in this country. What we are against is the goverment taking half of our incomes to provide worse medical care. Look at the income tax rates in Canada and Europe and the problems people have in getting basic medical care. We don’t want this in this country. There are many things that can be done first to help people get health insurance and medical care before we let the goverment mess up our lives anymore._
By Mr. Logic
October 8, 2009 12:01 AM | Link to this
Every poll on health care I have seen said the America electorate by a big majority wants a government run public health care option for every American. History lesson, right wing Republicans were against a woman’s right to vote, Social Security, Medicare, and public schools._
By Jim
October 7, 2009 11:32 PM | Link to this
Patteral at Miami, What’s wrong, not good enough to go Yale, Princeton, or Harvard? You seem like a privileged brat who needs a dose of reality IMO. People are dying and going bankrupt in this country because of health care, and the fact that you place CEO salaries ahead of human survival,is astonishing. Please don’t go into any field where you might have to sacrifice and help people. BTW, your personal insults mean nothing to me. I march to a much different Drummer than you my young friend._
By Lux Et Veritas
October 7, 2009 11:20 PM | Link to this
Obama is a liar. William Hershey is a liar. All liberal Democrats are liars!_
By Jim
October 7, 2009 11:10 PM | Link to this
JimIsSilly, First of all, I don’t understand your judgmental attitude toward me. You have no idea what I do for a living, and your personal implication that I don’t work hard is misguided. Secondly, I have no problem with people making money, as long as it doesn’t cause death or bankruptcy for the majority of Americans. You strike me as a young person who thinks he’s never going to get sick. Or, an East Coast UD kid, not quite good enough for Ivy, who’s still on Pops insurance. Yes? You’re not living in the reality of what so many unprivileged Americans face. An insurance company denying coverage to make a buck is un-American IMO. And a CEO making millions while their clients die is shameful._
By painfultruth
October 7, 2009 11:05 PM | Link to this
earl is correct. The Canadian system only exists due to the close availablility of our “shameful for profit” heath care system. Don’t call me on this as I know many Canadians. I’m there on business about every month. Their system is so-so at best, but anything other than a cold or broken finger, they send patients to the US for diagnoses and treatment. I could list a bunch of cases. Also, I sometimes have to wait 2 or 3 hours to get to my doc. In Canada, it’s the emergency room or 4 to 6 weeks! Laugh, you morons, wait until you lose the best medical care in the world! Canada loses over 20% of their docs to the US ANNUALLY because they HATE their SYSTEM. Look all this up before you even attempt to comment, MORONS!_
By painfultruth
October 7, 2009 10:57 PM | Link to this
The 69% that want the nanny government to want to supply them health care are just too STUPID to take care of themselves. You flaming libs are BANKRUPTING the USA. 47% of US citizens pay NO TAXES (see CNN on this). Take from the working people and give to the welfare class. MAO-BAMA’s WAY for SURE. Socialist PIGS!_
By Jim wastes time talking to morons
October 7, 2009 10:57 PM | Link to this
Count me in the 69%. College degree, employed with health insurance._
By earl
October 7, 2009 10:56 PM | Link to this
Tom, Do you honestly believe insulting those you disagree with bolsters your argument?_
By Jim is silly
October 7, 2009 10:50 PM | Link to this
Jimbo — Not real sure why you keep going after CEO’s. Success drives america. Did you go to college and get two degrees in hopes of making minimum wage? The best part of America is that we can all strive to rise to the top. Your view point tells me, as a young person, that I should give up now and not strive to rise up the corporate ladder. CEO’s of big or small companies work harder in a day than Jim has ever had to work with his two degrees. Heres a thought Jim - why don’t the democrats give tax credits to business’s that provide healthcare. Here’s an even better idea - why not give tax credits for highering new employees in this job market. Oops I said the wrong thing - giving businesses back more of their hard earned money. Here is what drives me nuts Jim - Why would an insurance company ever accept someone with a preexisting condition - they can’t afford it. Jim if your house is burning down and you call to get homeowner insurance do you think someone will give it to you. Thats what this bill would mean for private health insurers. Its situations like the one mentioned above that will break the government health system._
By Tom
October 7, 2009 10:48 PM | Link to this
Good to see some realistic numbers. It’s a shame that the sheep who watch Faux News are so out of touch with reality. Nobody thinks tort reform is a bad idea, but it is far, far less important than the reforms that are currently under consideration. The public option is simply one part of a comprehensive reform bill. If the PO drives private insurers out of business, it is only because they can’t offer the same quality at a competitive price. If you think the gov’t can run anything, then the PO shouldn’t scare you. If you have private insurance, you can expect your premium to go up about $1,000 next year, without any increase in benefits. That’s a problem._
By earl
October 7, 2009 10:37 PM | Link to this
Jim, This is lower case “e” earl. Perhaps your question might best be answered by any one of a multitude of Canadians who travel to the United States for medical care. “For profit” is the motivation in the creation of wealth. Government does not create wealth, it confiscates wealth._
By Jim is Stupid
October 7, 2009 10:34 PM | Link to this
Jim — You crazy guy. I bet Acorn helped you buy your house. I bet you believed Obama was going to fill your tank full of gas forever. Jim and his buddies provide me with the laughs that keep me out of the doctors offices. Everybody — Jim hates America and the freedom he is afforded (i.e. the two degrees he bragged about). Jim how about a better education system before health care - got to enrich the leaders of tomorrow (someone is going to have to pay for all these expensive policies). How are those degrees working out Jim. I am sure with degrees like that you get to see whatever doctor you want whenever you need to. Here is a fact people: Doctors across Dayton are preparing the moves if this bill goes through. Dayton’s best doctors won’t work for the government - they can’t afford it! Keep on fighting Jim - Can’t wait to see Obama’s America!_
By Jim
October 7, 2009 10:31 PM | Link to this
Gabe, What is the solution? A few more 20 million dollar CEO’s??? Dropped coverage?? Denied coverage?? Hard working Americans forced into bankruptcy and/or Death? Is this what you want for America? And please, save me the freeloader speech. That’s not it at all._
By Jim
October 7, 2009 10:23 PM | Link to this
Earl, I totally agree with TORT Reform. This is one area where we can agree_
By Jim
October 7, 2009 10:21 PM | Link to this
Earl, How can the government be any worse than “for profit” insurance companies netting 30%, denying coverage, dropping coverage, tacking on huge co-pays, and forcing middle class Americans into bankruptcy or death? Really Earl? You don’t see it?_
By Earl
October 7, 2009 10:17 PM | Link to this
How about tort reform. That would reduce medical malpractice and reduce healthcare. Oh wait, the trial laywers are in the Democrats back pocket. Can’t do that, it makes too much sense._
By Gabe
October 7, 2009 10:14 PM | Link to this
Jim - the health care you have today is the one the government gave us in the 70’s. The government is the problem here. What makes you think they are also the solution????_
By Earl
October 7, 2009 10:13 PM | Link to this
Anyone that believes the Government can do this efficiently needs to have their head examined. Take the projected cost triple it and multiply by 2. Medicare is broke, the post office is broke, and social security is broke. Healthcare will be broke too. That is why people are resisting._
By Paul
October 7, 2009 10:11 PM | Link to this
@barkingbulldog and others: I completely agree. Let’s divide the country. All for it. You get the red states and we get the blue. but before you sign the dotted line, you might want to review where red state money comes from: http://scatter.wordpress.com/2009/02/16/red-state-blue-state-welfare-state-subsidizing-state/ As for a public option: I suppose all you bozos think that by not having a public option, you’re not paying? Who do you think pays the bill when those people use the emergency room? Ah the medicine fairy! Approve the senate finance committee bill with a public option tacked on. it will lower the deficit even more. Self-sustaining. What’s not to like about that? PS: If we were smart, we’d get a single payer system. But righties here wouldn’t know what that means… read on: http://www.denverpost.com/opinion/ci_12523427[an error occurred while processing this directive]
By earl
October 7, 2009 10:08 PM | Link to this
Jim, I believe an individual should make as much as the market will allow. In a free market economy competition inside an industry controls and determines the value (salary) of a CEO. The consumer has a voice with his pocket book. If his desires are not being met, he shops elsewhere. His former provider either adjusts his business plan to keep and attract clients or fails. Competition is the key. Under the guise of fairness and compassion the government stifles competition. I love this country where a man who understands and satisfies the desires of his fellow countrymen with hard work can become rich._
By Jim
October 7, 2009 9:57 PM | Link to this
Where do you do the poll. I don’t think you’re right._
By Jim
October 7, 2009 9:56 PM | Link to this
What truly amazes me, are the number of middle class posters on here who are one emergency, or one serious illness, away from bankruptcy. These people continue to support the right wing and business as usual, which is demolishing the middle class. The insurance companies could care less about you, and they are doing everything in their power to make money. That includes: denying coverage, dropping coverage, delay paying bills, excessive co-pays, and outlandish CEO salaries. Why do you right wing idealist want this?_
By Uncle Carl
October 7, 2009 9:54 PM | Link to this
Funny that I don’t remember answering any questions about this, and yet the report suggests that 69% of Ohioans support the initiative. While I don’t expect the pollsters to ask everyone everything, it’s amazing to me that they never seem to ask me or anyone else I know anything at anytime._
By Jim
October 7, 2009 9:38 PM | Link to this
Earl, While you make some good points about the faults with Medicaid and Medicare, which Obama has acknowledged, I strongly believe that “for profit” insurance companies are a far bigger problem. Why do you support the excessive salaries of CEO’s at the expense of the middle class?_
By TKidding72
October 7, 2009 9:36 PM | Link to this
I have already heard talk of them taking it right out of your check just like federal income tax_
By TKidding72
October 7, 2009 9:31 PM | Link to this
I think most people are afraid of what Im afraid of and thats the government turning health insurance into another form of the IRS. Where if you don’t have the money to pay to bad its off to jail for you_
By InconvenientFacts
October 7, 2009 9:24 PM | Link to this
“I wasn’t asked and nobody I know participated, either.” Yet another person who doesn’t understand statistics._
By Obama_sucks
October 7, 2009 9:24 PM | Link to this
69% my *ss. They only polled those that live in the inner cities. 99% of them are already on welfare. The 70% of my income they get apparently isn’t enough._
By InconvenientFacts
October 7, 2009 9:22 PM | Link to this
“OF COURSE 69% OF OHIOIANS WANT FREE MEDICAL.” Where, exactly, do you get this “free” from?_
By earl
October 7, 2009 9:22 PM | Link to this
Sir, you, as with other liberals, are my foil in my earnest attempt to push back the frontiers of ignorance._
By Tom
October 7, 2009 9:21 PM | Link to this
You can get a poll to slant whichever way you want. I wasn’t asked and nobody I know participated, either. Just one more example of the media bias trying to convince us that this is a good idea. I am not buying socialized medicine._
By THE TRUTH
October 7, 2009 9:16 PM | Link to this
OF COURSE 69% OF OHIOIANS WANT FREE MEDICAL. THEY ARE THE REPRESENT THE STATE’S CULTURE OF DEPENDANCY. GO DEMOCRATS—YOU MAKE ME PROUD_
By jim_II
October 7, 2009 9:15 PM | Link to this
I served my country during wartime, have worked hard to get where I am, I have a six figure income, and I am one of the “liberal do-gooders” the barking loonie is talking about. Let me ask you this sir…in your divided country, where do I belong???_
By earl
October 7, 2009 9:07 PM | Link to this
Jim, I am not implying that you are a free-loader? I am saying that your thinking concerning health care reform is incomplete, inaccurate and simply wrong. Ronald Reagan said,”Government is not the solution, Government is the Problem.”_
By Jim
October 7, 2009 8:58 PM | Link to this
Earl, Are you implying that I’m a freeloader? I have a freakin Masters degree and make very good money. You wouldn’t be….(long pause) LOL …. STEREOTYPING would you?_
By earl
October 7, 2009 8:49 PM | Link to this
God Bless you, barking bulldog. You are one of the many great Americans who are the engine of our economy. The contrast of your character to others posting comments is stark!_
By InconvenientFacts
October 7, 2009 8:40 PM | Link to this
“69% BS. I don’t support it and do not believe this poll is scientifically accurate. This is a LIE!!!!!!!!!!” Evidence? Or just emotional ranting? It has become very common for wingnuts to say “polls are bogus” when what they really should be saying is that “This poll says something I don’t agree with.” (Needless to say, when the poll says something the wingnut DOES agree with, then polls are good.) Sorry, but your emotional handwaving doesn’t do anything to make your case._
By earl
October 7, 2009 8:35 PM | Link to this
Jim, Government is inefficient. Economics is the study of allocation of scarce resources with alternative uses. Medicaid and Medicare are government programs fraught with price controls and regulations and cost the American tax payer billions of dollars per year in fraud. In a free market economy the intimacy of the provider/consumer stifles fraud and inefficiency, and competition delivers a better and less costly product. Don’t take my word for it, look at how socialized medicine plays out in the rest of the world. Empirical evidence always trumps emotional reaction._
By Jim
October 7, 2009 8:33 PM | Link to this
Barking Bullshot, Let me assure you that I am a responsible adult. I have a BME from Wright State, and ME from UD. Once again your stereotyping is inaccurate and misguided. Why should I be surprised._
By mwm
October 7, 2009 8:25 PM | Link to this
The “barking bulldog” is probably clueless when it comes to people suffering at the hands of insurance companies. Hard working people that pay for and have health insurance but are driven into financial hardship and sometimes bankruptcy due to copays and out of pocket expenses. Not one “liberal taker” in the people I know. Just hard working good and honest people. As stated, any industry that takes advantage of the sick and injured is evil._
By barking bulldog
October 7, 2009 8:14 PM | Link to this
I am in the 31% minority who is a business owner and I’m sure that I will be paying many times over (AKA “my fair share”) of the new increased costs of health care. Maybe those of us who are responsible adults who have worked hard, have a college education, take risks and create jobs don’t want to pay this for the likes of Jim , Matt and MWM who if the truth is known are probably your typical liberal takers who think you’re a bad person if you don’t pay for their social wants and programs. Let’s split the country into two parts, normal, self providing and self reliant people on one side and all the liberal do-gooders (aka “the takers”) on the other._
By dave b
October 7, 2009 8:14 PM | Link to this
69% BS. I don’t support it and do not believe this poll is scientifically accurate. This is a LIE!!!!!!!!!!_
By jeml
October 7, 2009 8:08 PM | Link to this
There is no way 69% of Ohioan’s support a public option. Are these people stupi…..never mind…..Ohio did go the way of Barack Husein Obama. mmm mmm mmm…_
By Jim
October 7, 2009 8:01 PM | Link to this
Earl, Please explain how the government is responsible for rising health care costs. Under reform, the Government isn’t out to make a profit. The insurance companies are trying to pad their wallets with Billions of dollars at your expense. I’m all for capitalism, except when human life and/or suffering is at stake. Earl, would you rather have a “for profit” insurance company making decisions for you, or the non profit government? Earl, it sounds like you’ve bought into Reagan’s sound bite that government is ALWAYS bad. In this case, it’s just not true. I fully support a public option._
By mwm
October 7, 2009 8:00 PM | Link to this
Thanks Jim. I think that we are not swayed by the media blitz the insurance lobbyists, FOX news and talk radio have generated in opposition to health care reform. One just has to talk to a friend or neighbor that is suffering at the hands of some health insurance company to see the truth. Like the young couple in my neighborhood who had a garage sale to help with the expenses; the wife has cancer. And yes, they have insurance but, copays and out of pockets are breaking them. How about the guy that does the “network” dance on the phone to find a doctor. Or, a friend that filed bankruptcy after his wife died of breast cancer… Had to because of the massive amount of medical bills. And that was with insurance. Or ask anyone that has lost their job and cannot afford health insurance. It is bad. Industries that take advantage of the sick or injured are evil._
By Matt
October 7, 2009 7:55 PM | Link to this
I am one of the 69%. We need reform: http://www.savingamericanlives.org[an error occurred while processing this directive]
By earl
October 7, 2009 7:46 PM | Link to this
Have you statists for health care reform who want evermore government involvement in the health care industry ever considered that government interference is responsible for many of the problems and much of the escalating costs associated with health insurance?_
By Just me
October 7, 2009 7:32 PM | Link to this
Okay if we already have medicaid for the poor and working poor what is wrong w/people above the income guideline who can’t afford to buy insurance privately or there work does not offer it being able to “buy” health insurance through the govt similar to medicaid?? I mean if poor people can get it for free why can’t people buy into it?? I would think people would be for this since their tax $$ is already helping a lot of people get it for free!_
By Jim
October 7, 2009 7:31 PM | Link to this
MWM, I agree 100% with everything you say. I have a couple of question. Why can’t others see what you and I see? Is it that hard to figure out, or are they too blind to see the atrocities that are occurring everyday in this country? The middle class is being demolished, people are dying and filing bankruptcy. I can’t imagine that we have that many millionaires posting on this blog, so what are these middle class posters, that oppose reform, supporting? CEO’s? 30% profits? Being denied coverage? I just don’t understand the opposition._
By Cin
October 7, 2009 7:16 PM | Link to this
Huh, that’s strange because of all of the polls that I’ve seen thus far, 70% of the people don’t want it. I think some steering is being done here in this article as well. The government being involved in our healthcare system will be diasterious. Changes need to be made but this isn’t the way to go about it._
By null sheeite
October 7, 2009 7:08 PM | Link to this
Jeez,69 percent just doesn’t sound accurate. They are trying to steer us. My guess is 69 percent doesn’t even know what the heck the public option IS._
By earl
October 7, 2009 7:07 PM | Link to this
Barb, It cannot be considered a right that which requires the taking from one individual to provide for another._
By Barb
October 7, 2009 7:04 PM | Link to this
Thank You Jim, The longterm job I lost was with a very large insurance company. They posted 89 billion yes I said billion dollar profit and then 2 months later laid off everyone who worked there for more than 7 years. The big CEO bought a 7th vacation property right after that. Insurance companies are the problem not the doctors, not the patients, and thank god our government is thinking of us THE PEOPLE._
By mwm
October 7, 2009 7:02 PM | Link to this
The folks that are against health care reform should just end their employer provided insurance and pay for it on their own. They should never complain about being rejected for pre-existing conditions. Never use Medicare. Never use any employer retirement health care. They should never go to the VA or any other socialized medicine. Never join the military or use military dependent care. Those opposed to health care reform should be forced to pay $600 to $800 or more per month for health insurance. They should gleefully pay their copays and out of pocket expenses and, should be very happy when catastrophic illness affects their family. And, are told by some admin assistant that they cannot get care due to some “out of network” clause. They should be cheering when the pharmacy says the insurance company will not cover a script due to the drug not being on a “list”. They should also be happy when the copays and out of pocket costs forces them to bankruptcy. And, be singing a tune after spending hours on the phone arguing with some admin assistant about coverage and paying the doctor. Those opposed to health care reform are either working for a health insurance company or have been brainwashed by the health insurance lobby._
By Jim
October 7, 2009 6:59 PM | Link to this
Why are you knuckleheads opposed to health care reform? Are you living in a cave or do you have your collective heads in the sand? Millions of Americans are going bankrupt or dying. Why are you guys trying to protect the insurance companies with their multi million dollar CEO’s at the expense of honest, working class Americans? The insurance companies are NOT your friends._
By Barb
October 7, 2009 6:56 PM | Link to this
I am a Republican and I support health care reform. I lost my longterm job and as a result lost my insurance. I would love to buy health insurance but the premium for a family of 6 is two times my house payment. We need health care reform for folks like me. I feel so sorry for the haters on this blog. I guess you are fortunate to have a job and health insurnce but have no problem denying other Americans the same rights._
By mdizzie
October 7, 2009 6:56 PM | Link to this
HEY. STATS and POLLS ARE BS. Those polls go out to people over phone, e-mail and snail mail, and the people who participate are the same people who always do. Did any of you get a poll asking you how you felt? No. Its all biased. Here is a statistic to suck on, 89% of people from Middletown and the surrounding area, don’t have a college education._
By mdizzie
October 7, 2009 6:55 PM | Link to this
HEY. STATS and POLLS ARE BS. Those polls go out to people over phone, e-mail and snail mail, and the people who participate are the same people who always do. Did any of you get a poll asking you how you felt? No. Its all biased. Here is a statistic to suck on, 89% of people from Middletown and the surrounding area, don’t have a college education._
By hmmm
October 7, 2009 6:48 PM | Link to this
Now, people are even arguing statistics? John@Oakwood, how about you show your political/social science training or comparable training in performing polls? Did you even look at the data on the link provided?_
By Clem
October 7, 2009 6:45 PM | Link to this
A separate scientific study determined that 69 percent of Ohioans are idiots._
By Jim
October 7, 2009 6:44 PM | Link to this
Its been great for me for the past year or so. I did not have to wait to see any doctors, in fact I could make same day appointments with specialists now. I think the public option will ruin all that. I do not want wait behind a welfare mother to see a doctor. I hope this public option does not pass._
By earl
October 7, 2009 6:43 PM | Link to this
Let me ask the questions asked in the “Ohio Health Issues Poll” in my own words and I will beat that 3.4% margin of error… by a factor of ten._
By richardo
October 7, 2009 6:29 PM | Link to this
Pollacks been berry berry good to me - oh Polls…never mind_
By Frylock
October 7, 2009 6:26 PM | Link to this
No Roger, that’s what Fox News would say. Pick a headline and go with it, you can’t put all of the details in the headline, that’s what the article is for._
By Roger
October 7, 2009 6:18 PM | Link to this
“The 69 percent … was slightly lower than the 73 percent who provided the same responses in a June 2009 survey.” So, shouldn’t the headline read “Ohio poll reports 4 percent decrease in support of health care public option”? While accurate, the headline is slightly misleading in that it leaves out a vital fact._
By Steve
October 7, 2009 6:10 PM | Link to this
Agreed Judi P. I’m sure that of the 818 people surveyed 564 of them would also be found on ACORNS registered list of voters. 564/818=69%_
By John in Oakwood
October 7, 2009 6:03 PM | Link to this
Why destroy the last vestage of credibility the Dayton Daily News still has by printing such a poorly supported article. I think the editorial staff’s political leaning has overshaddowed their logic and generated improbable results. Show us the survey questions and summarized response statistics and let us test your conclusions._
By Greg
October 7, 2009 5:58 PM | Link to this
Just proof positive you can slant any poll by wording to fit a liberal agenda._
By Judi P
October 7, 2009 5:58 PM | Link to this
But John Boehner hasn’t met any of them…………_