By oldteach

June 15, 2007 3:36 PM | Link to this

I would like to add to oldprof’s comments…How about making parents responsible for their childrens behavior and actions.

By David

June 14, 2007 10:27 PM | Link to this

The show was mostly to let the public school haters demonstrate how they have a “plan” to fix education. The Republicans (Husted) do nothing in the statehouse for years; the charter group wants vouchers for everyone; and the UD guy was there with out-of-this-world ideas to try, can you say DECA? Sure education will work if every school can have DECA ratios and time paid for. The people missing from the summit are the stakeholders: the parents and teachers actually in the classrooms and maybe some principals. Although if they survived in DPS they probably are not efficient and not effective. As for the new theories, the theories are usually old ideas from a decade or so rehashed to make them sound new that someone did for their dissertation or last research paper. Another know-it-all college prof sitting at the summit with pie-in-the-sky thinking for a down-to-earth problem (I’m not talking about OLDPROF)… … … ..The reality is, just like OLDPROF says, you get what you pay for (higher teacher numbers per student load) and discipline on the part of the students. In a community where one group has a 70% out-of-wedlock birthrate and the males in high numbers make themselves out as gangsta pretenders in schools, discipline needs to be first. Wasn’t mentioned at the summit. Having a couple of flashy show buildings doesn’t make a district; but I’ll bet the discipline at Stivers was pretty good. That needs to be applied throughout the district day one next year. No more reports of unruly kids cursing and yelling out bus windows (ooops, they won’t have buses will they), no more scenes of Dayton Police rolling up to a building to handle guns and knives found or used. And the city management will do nothing to call out the groups responsible. You’ll still have a mayor worried about a new hat to wear and stupid glasses with a rectangle and an oval when the mayor could make a statement to start cleaning up the out-of-school behavior on the part of one group in her city. The city is the starting point as well as dumping Reynolds buildings and putting the “upper” administration out in one of the unused buildings…

By Oldprof

June 14, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this

I want everyone to remember which old prof wrote in this blog that this meeting would lead to nothing. Except for the same tired old stuff from the “school choice” side—does Ryan have the decency to cite that, when taken separately, the charter schools have NOT improved test scores? All in all, what we need are NOT “new ideas”—we’ve been drowning in those for decades. We need some good old proven ideas rather than more guesswork and experimentation: ideas like “you get what you pay for” and “students are responsible for their learning”.