By travis michaels

January 25, 2009 5:04 PM | Link to this

I was watching the Ohio State/Michigan State game and at half time, they said that the A10 is a one bid league this year. The A10 is just too weak. Combine that with our weak non-conf schedule and we are not getting any respect. If we can do what Butler did (that is beat X at the CC), then we will get some respect. Beating a lowly team like St Bonny is not going to impress anyone.

By texasfan

January 25, 2009 5:15 PM | Link to this

I heard the same comment about the A-10 being a one bid league, and you’re right beating St. Bonny and barely getting by a poor GW will not only not impress anybody, but further point out how weak the A-10 is. X beats a resurgent LSU on the road, and continues to play many quality teams, they deserve the respect they get, UD wants it, play better teams and stop having X beat them like a drum. BG stating that the A-10 teams are “better than the record shows” sends the message nationally he doesn’t correctly know talent, or he’s just full of bull, either way not helping the cause for UD.

By Mongoose

January 25, 2009 5:36 PM | Link to this

Do you guys believe everything you hear? We’ll leave it at that. I thought UD looked pretty good even with poor performances by Little and Huelsman. The gap would of been a lot wider if Mathews hadn’t of been on fire. He was actually guarded pretty well I thought. And, look out guys here comes Chris Johnson…..this guy can ball.

By PoetWarrior

January 25, 2009 5:50 PM | Link to this

I can’t believe you quoting CBS’s Seth Davis. This swarmy Dukester, who sports the “negative sideburns”, dreams of a tourney with just ACC and Big East Teams. He repeated his A-10 slam three different times….word for word… he’s like the Bush administration…if you say it enough, they public will buy it. That’s why BG has to keep saying A-10 teams are “better than the record shows”. It’s called campaigning. It’s positioning the team and the conference and IT DOES HELP UD. 18-2….18-2. Best start in 50 years, and you’re listening to a guy sleeps in a “Duke Snuggie”.

By FaithfulFlyer65

January 25, 2009 6:05 PM | Link to this

Just as they did against Marquette, the Flyers showed that they can play with most teams when Chris Wright, Marcus Johnson, Chris Johnson, and Rob Lowrey get their minutes. As a group they shot 50% from the field against St. Bonnie and made 22 of 27 free throws. These guys can score points and they need to be on the floor together longer. As far as Huelsman, he can contribute, but not offensively. He needs to keep from putting the ball on floor when he gets it because when he does it results in a turnover 80% of the time. The best thing he can do is throw the ball back out as quickly as he can when he gets it and let RW, MJ, or CJ put up an open 3. At least Dayton is now beating the teams they should beat in the A-10. Let’s see if they can play with St. Joe, Temple and Xavier.

By amy katz

January 25, 2009 6:10 PM | Link to this

Dayton is 4-1 against the top 100 of the RPI, including Marquette. These are 2 things that will help them with the selection committee. Besides xavier and Dayton, this season the “weak” A10 has beaten Kansas, Tennessee, Boston College, Penn State amoung others.

By Ken

January 25, 2009 6:13 PM | Link to this

The only chance to get a “quality win” from an NCAA perspective is to beat Xavier. Temple and St Joes are nowhere close to being at large teams.

By FaithfulFlyer65

January 25, 2009 6:48 PM | Link to this

Regarding Ken’s comment. He’s correct that Temple and St.Joe are not close to being at large teams this season, but they still almost always beat UD. The Flyers need to show the world that they can beat these teams. If they do, even if they lose to Xavier twice, which they probably will, their Won-Lost record should be good enough to get them consideration from the tourney committee.

By ted

January 25, 2009 7:17 PM | Link to this

I remember when Xavier fans were strutting around after beating RI by a few points. RI just took 2 overtimes to beat GW today. Don’t play the score differential game. It’s a sham.

By Rich

January 25, 2009 7:21 PM | Link to this

I tend to agree with FF65 that UD can get in with two regular season losses to X, provided they lose no more than 1-2 other conference games and advance to the A10 semifinals or finals. UD could have beaten St.B today by 30. For some inexplicable reason, BG put in Fabricius, Searcy, Thomas and Williams right after they went up by 15 after a series of athletic slam-dunks that took all the energy out of St.B. It was a defensive-offensive display I have never seen from a UD team. I know BG likes to get those guys their minutes, but with the exception of Searcy—do it at the end of the game. That one move killed all the momentum, and led to St.B hanging on until the end.

By Jerseyflyer

January 25, 2009 7:42 PM | Link to this

Agree with Rich.CWright is going off and Gregs puts him on the bench. Anybody who’s ever BBalled and got yanked for a bad play expected to sit. But after you throw down alley-oop SKY Hammer dunk, you hit the Pines.Mind Blowing. When has UD had a kid like this?Never. He brings building down and you sit him? Leave him in and show him to ESPN! Recruiting TOOL>Duh?

By Ed

January 25, 2009 7:48 PM | Link to this

Good observation by Rich. I was thinking the same thing as it was happening. Just as UD was on a roll and the unit on the floor was playing exceptionally well, the Coach takes out Marcus Johnson and Chris Wright and kills all the momentum they had built. We all know why he does this, but is it a good strategy? Momentum is hard to establish and even harder to find again once it has been lost. If 18 to 22 year old athletes in good physical condition can’t run around the floor for more than 4 minutes at a time, or more than 24 minutes in a 40 minute game with with at least 4 time out rest periods each half, there is something wrong.

By crazy-flyer

January 25, 2009 8:17 PM | Link to this

I am a UD faithful but I must realistically admit that until UD gets a “True” center they will not only continue to get beat by X but they will not be a recognized national program. UD has a lot of talent on the perimiter but no physical force in the middle and that spells M.E.D.I.O.C.R.I.T.Y

By GregS

January 25, 2009 9:08 PM | Link to this

Actually, BG might be sitting CW on the bench so that CW does not jump ship to a BCS school, or jump to the NBA after this year. If I was Chris Wright, I’d seriously think about transferring to improve his chances at an NBA career.

By RR

January 25, 2009 9:27 PM | Link to this

After every game the postings always talk about defense. BG’s rotation keeps everyone fresh and ready to give 100% in the last few minutes. Plus it keeps the fouls down. Has anyone fouled out this season? Wright will stay for the education as long as the team is winning. The NBA will give him a chance.

By Billy

January 25, 2009 10:03 PM | Link to this

GregS…that’s quite possibly the dumbest thing that I have ever heard…you must have no knowledge about sports whatsoever

By Brian

January 25, 2009 10:04 PM | Link to this

This team continues to be impressive and frustrating at the same time. I like the way they play defense and push the ball. But when Huelsman and Warren are on the floor at the same time, that leaves only 3 people who can score. I know this team threw down some dunks today, but I still think they are “offensively challenged”, and we’ll see how they handle a good St. Joe’s team next Sunday.

By Rob

January 25, 2009 10:33 PM | Link to this

I can’t believe everyone’s lack of faith in this team. Each member of the team kills it each and every night. i remember when you could say we had a “true center” in the past and we would lose close road games like GW. Wake up people, we have a great team that has competed with great talent and won this year. UD will continue to do this throughout the season and I am sure we will at least split with X. This is a talented team that everyone should be praising Coach Gregory for moving forward. I was a student when OP was the coach and while he moved the program ahead after the disaster that is Jim O’Brien he could not take the team to the next level like Coach Gregory is doing each year. Be thankful for the team we have that has already beaten Marquette, Auburn, George Mason, and now St. Bonaventure. The team deserves our respect, praise, and support!

By Matt

January 25, 2009 10:35 PM | Link to this

The A-10 Conference just has to many programs that can’t compete at a high enough level. St. Bonaventure, La Salle, Fordham, Duquesne, Richmond, etc. Small fan bases and poor facilities, they schools have no shot at ever getting an at large bid. Its amazing UD hasn’t been able to finish better than .500 the past three years in the league. And for the last time, stop with the talk of Chris Wright leaving to go to a BCS school. That makes absoulutley no sense whatsoever. I thought this was a great college basketball town. You read comments like that and it makes me wonder.

By tds70

January 25, 2009 10:42 PM | Link to this

I saw the momentum change also which is a bit much to watch at times. However I believe I have noticed that in the last 6-8 games the playing time of the scorers is gradually going up. I am thinking that this may be intentional to avoid some of the late season breakdowns the Flyers appear to have had the last few years. I may be wrong here but If they peak in about 4 weeks it will be a 8 man rotation and the team intact with the best chance to move on. I see 28 - 30 minutes for the top 4 guys noted with some fresh legs after 30 games. More or less minutes etc, for the remaining 8 depending on score , D needed, and or zone busting. A10 still may get only 1 team in if X wins the tournament, the committee is hard to figure out , but Strength of schedule is a big part of their evaluation and X has that going for them. I hope the new Flyer AD gets the mesage. I thing 16-4 with a strength of schedule at 90-100 is better then 18-2 with 190. Still I like watching the energy on the court from the entire team- Go Flyers!

By Ed

January 25, 2009 11:14 PM | Link to this

Rob thinks that Coach Gregory has taken the team to the next level, while OP didn’t!!!! Don’t make me laugh. OP had teams that played in the NCAA tourney. I think this is BG’s 5th year and his goal every season has been to get to the big dance. He has yet to get there. Maybe when his teams get there 2 or 3 years in a row we can say he has taken the team to the next level.

By Jeff

January 25, 2009 11:33 PM | Link to this

Ed: Bg took the team to the NCAA his first season. Yes, it was OP’s players, but he was the coach. Your post is simply factually incorrect. Beyond that senior class, OP left the cupboard empty. BG has refilled it and bigger cupboards will likely soon be calling. I hope he stays. CW is going nowhere. The repeated posts of transfering to a BCS school show utter ignorance of CW as a person and a player.

By tds70

January 26, 2009 12:08 AM | Link to this

I think some of you people need to lighten up a bit on BG. OP was a head coach at 2 schools before he ended up in Dayton where he did a fine job. BG is a different type coach , 5 yrs, and as such has to recruit to his style. If CW doesn’t go down and CL out for a bit last year we go to the tournament. This year , time will tell. I like the style of ball and if he continues to recruit talent Dayton Basketball will be solid . Lets also see how many of the athletes get degrees and move on to better things. After all, is it not why you go to college, oh yes maybe not for everyone . Thad Motta gets to rebuild every year. I don’t like his approach but he does a good job with what he has. Lighten up, enjoy the game — the game! If you don’t like paying to watch, stay home.

By DC

January 26, 2009 12:16 AM | Link to this

You know, it’s not just the players to blame for offensive shortcomings. I almost can’t stand to watch or listen to games anymore, mostly because of the substitution patterns. I don’t know how many times I heard my boyfriend say today “so and so just scored and BG took him out”, or “so and so just dunked and BG took him out”. I see this myself at games and it’s so frustrating. Keeping players “fresh” doesn’t mean squat when you’re taking out the ones that are putting points on the board. Athletes should be able to perform for more than a few minutes at a time. This substitution pattern is killing any chance of having a strong and consistent offense. Players should be benched if they’re tired and not performing, or just plain not performing. CLEARLY, if a player is scoring, he’s not too tired or underperforming. Am I the only one who thinks this is common sense and logical? Other than that, I love my Flyers and wish them the best. GO UD!

By Matt

January 26, 2009 12:26 AM | Link to this

Clearly, the coach doesn’t know what he’s doing. They are 18-2 and have won all of their close games. Obviously something is wrong with the coach…lol

By Phil

January 26, 2009 12:28 AM | Link to this

I think it’s great all this talk and excitement about UD basketball and not one word or even a care about whether or not Wright State (Wrong University) even played a game this weekend…The way it should be!! GO FLYERS!!!

By UD Cryers Rule

January 26, 2009 1:32 AM | Link to this

WSU has the 2nd best defense in the nation, so they play boring ball. It is easy to understand why people wouldn’t want to talk about that… let alone pay for it. I do think about how embarassing it must be to be 18-2 and to still be considered mediocre.

By Schedule Strength

January 26, 2009 1:34 AM | Link to this

Sunday’s Sagarin ratings in USAToday show that the Flyers have played the 278th toughest schedule in NCAA Div I this season. So impressive.

By Phil

January 26, 2009 1:56 AM | Link to this

Alot of good is does Wrong State to have the 2nd best defense in the country (which I don’t know where you got that stat-don’t believe it!) when they can’t even get a mention in their hometown website or even get 1,000 fans to watch them play. It’s pretty easy to play defense against the crappy teams in the Horizon league. Not very impressive. WSU is considered LESS than mediocre-now that’s sad!

By Matt

January 26, 2009 2:21 AM | Link to this

Phil, your an idiot. It’s clowns like you that give Flyer fans a bad rep. It’s pretty obvious you know nothing about college basketball. The A-10 is 9th in the RPI and the Horizon is 11th. Big time difference there. If UD needs to figure out how to beat Xavier, just watch their game tape against Butler. They didn’t find it that hard.

By Xavier Fan

January 26, 2009 2:45 AM | Link to this

I just got off the phone with the UD Athletic Director and it seems UD just scheduled a home and home with that High School girls team from Texas that lost 100-0 in an attempt to beef up the schedule.

By Phil

January 26, 2009 4:16 AM | Link to this

Sorry Matt but the only idiots are people who even attempt (and a very weak attempt at that) to justify the existence of a Division I basketball program at Wright State! WSU will NEVER come close to equaling the history, tradition and quality of the UD basketball program. WSU can’t even get people to go watch them when they GIVE tickets away for FREE!! How pathetic!! Dream on Bozo.

By Matt

January 26, 2009 8:00 AM | Link to this

I’m sure comparing the almighty Flyer program to the program that started playing D1 in 1989 is real fair. It’s not WSU’s fault UD underachieves in Xavier’s shadow and was left to play conference games against powerhouses St. Bonaventure, Fordham, and La Salle while longtime rivals Depaul and Marquette were chosen to play in the Big East. I always have hoped both Dayton area schools do well but it’s clowns like you that make Dayton impossible to root for. I guess WSU can only dream the day they are 18-2 and still on the bubble. Even in an year filled with injuries without an all-conference guard WSU will still finish top 100 in the RPI and attendance. All I know is one program is as big as they’ll ever be and one is growing with unlimited potential.

By anchor57

January 26, 2009 8:58 AM | Link to this

I recently saw the UCLA vs. Arizona game in LA. It is a whole different world of play. The A-10 is relatively quite weak, and will be lucky to get a second NCAA bid, considering the order of magnitude difference in the level of play. BTW, John Wooden showed up at the game and held court during half time. He looked frail, but is nearing 100!

By amy katz

January 26, 2009 9:04 AM | Link to this

wow ff86 - you have no clue!! you say that “Regarding Ken’s comment. He’s correct that Temple and St.Joe are not close to being at large teams this season, but they still almost always beat UD.” We’re talking about this season! If you want to talk about the past than you can’t say they are no where near ncaa teams as both got bids last year and a few years ago St. Joes had the national player of the near and a #1 seed in the tournament!

By THE UD CRYERS

January 26, 2009 9:14 AM | Link to this

I would never want WSU fans to become as small-minded as Phil.

By amy katz

January 26, 2009 9:15 AM | Link to this

Matt - I have to say I feel the same about wsu fans - I’d like to root for both schools but they make it hard! They get an automatic bid to the NCAA and think they are world beaters; the refuse to play at UD and whine because they won’t get a home-home when they couldn’t fill up the nutt house before when they played UD. Also, while the A10 has some bad teams, overall it is a much stronger conference than the horizon. A10 has been geeting 3+ bids on aregular basis while the horizon is maybe a 2 bid league. The A10, this decade has had 2 national players of the year, at least 3 elite 8 appearances, and a number one seed. I think one reason why wsu fans resent UD so much is the fan loyalty - true ud fans show up to support the tgeam no matter what while even when playing well, wsu seldom plays to a full (or close to full) house

By JasonV

January 26, 2009 9:20 AM | Link to this

If the A10 is such a terrible conference; why is CBS carrying the conference champtionship game beginning in 2010? We’ll see if the horizon league ever gets coverage like that!

By JasonV

January 26, 2009 9:20 AM | Link to this

If the A10 is such a terrible conference; why is CBS carrying the conference champtionship game beginning in 2010? We’ll see if the horizon league ever gets coverage like that!

By sec 312

January 26, 2009 9:25 AM | Link to this

First of all… I like Amy she knows what she is talking about. Second, we play the schedule thats handed to us, we are 18-2, some of these so called fans act like we are a 500 club. Subs sometimes are a little weird ( after “going off”) but they will give us fresh leggs to the end of the season.

By MidWestHoops

January 26, 2009 9:48 AM | Link to this

How pathetic is a wsu fan who makes up a name like FaithfulFlyer65 just to post on a newspaper comment page? FYI FF65 (who says temple and st joes almost always beat UD) - Greogry does not have a losing record against either Temple or St. Joes! Maybe wsu should offer courses in logic or at least basic math

By C-Bus Flyer

January 26, 2009 10:41 AM | Link to this

Props to BG and crew for the 18-2 mark. Excellent. Now, make it stand up with AT LEAST a split with XU! A split will mute all the SOS talk, and strenghen the argument for an NCAA spot. As a matter of fact, NCAA is CRITICAL for BG…remember, this program rode Brian Roberts for four straight years, and the poor kid never got to show his skills in the Dance. Lastly, will all you XU posters crawl back into the wretched hole that is Cincinnati and stay off the computer? Aren’t customers at the drive-thru window getting angry about their wait?

By Hot Carl

January 26, 2009 10:51 AM | Link to this

C_Bus Flyer, Did you forget to take your medication this morning? Calm down! Face the facts, UD can’t talk the talk because they haven’t proven anything on the court, with the exception of Marquette. Let’s see UD play a decent OOC schedule and then you can crow all you want. Woops! I have to go, I’m giving a lecture on quantum mechanics.

By Amy Smells

January 26, 2009 11:12 AM | Link to this

Amy, WSU not only EARNED an auto-bid to the NCAA, but they also won the Horizon League outright 2 seasons ago… and swept top-25 Butler by beating them 3 times to go. They would have been in the NCAA tourn regardless. WSU didn’t get the favorable seeding, but Butler did. WSU will have to earn that basketball respect just like Butler did. Incidentally, Butler only has 1 loss and leads the HL, but the pollsters feel that is worthy of a top-25 ranking. I, for one, NEVER want to go sit in the dark, nasty UD Arena to watch WSU play Dayton. Frankly, I could care less if Dayton EVER plays WSU. The A10 is ranked 10th versus the HL being ranked 11th. The A10 wins that one… barely. UD needs to stop being so insecure about the state university in Fairborn. WSU will build a nice program, and they have enough fans to support it. Many NCAA programs can barely average 2500 fans/game. Dayton is lucky to have 2 teams averaging a TON of fans.

By Chris

January 26, 2009 5:11 PM | Link to this

WSU averages a ton of fans? I am a WSU as well as UD alum…but honestly? What is it, about 6000 a game? That is good for the horizon league, but still pretty sad when you consider WSU gives each student 2 free tickets, not to mention they give away about 5000 other tickets every game to local schools and businesses. Then when that still isnt enough, they offer free food and other gimmicks to get people to come. My firm gets 100 free WSU tickets every game, i bet we use 6. I am a season ticket holder to both schools, but there really isnt much comparison there. UD is fun to go to because it is a basketball arena, it gets loud and you can feel the game. Nutter Center is a terrible basketball arena, it doesnt get loud, and the seating is terrible. WSU is building a nice program, but nothing compared to UD. Every year it is the same thing, WSU is .500 (or below) in non-con, but then gets all their wins in conference. That definitely says something about the Horizon league. I agree the teams shouldnt play, it would be a waste of revenue for UD and too risky of a venture for fragile WSU.

By Tommy

January 26, 2009 6:15 PM | Link to this

Amy Smells, you really should change your name, but you made some valid comments.

By Phil

January 26, 2009 10:00 PM | Link to this

WSU will always be a joke. The Horizon league is pathetic and so is the fan support for the Raiders. No one goes because they are all at the UD Arena watching REAL college basketball. How do you like them apples Matt? Keeping watering your wilting little Division I basketball program and hope it grows.. HAHAHA

By Barnaby

January 26, 2009 10:20 PM | Link to this

Amy Smells-you obviously haven’t been to the UD arena since they remodeled it. It’s MUCH nicer and has more class than the Nutter Center will ever have hosting the circus and Twisted Sister rock concerts.

By Benjamin

January 26, 2009 10:26 PM | Link to this

All you Wright State “fans” who are so ashamed that they can’t even use their real names on this blog (I know it’s embarassing for you to be a WSU fan), just admit it: Wright State is nothing but a community college basketball program playing in a YMCA league. Bragging about Butler being in your pathetic little Horizon league is like bragging about being the first person in your family that can read. So sad…

By Benjamin Smallcock

January 27, 2009 12:23 AM | Link to this

Benjamin, you’re so right about WSU. We couldn’t be more lame and insecure about our basketball program… let alone our university. If only we could be so high and mighty as the UD fans are. Alas, we’ll just have to make due pumping your gas at Swifty while embracing the hubris of the UD graduates.

By Matt

January 27, 2009 12:33 AM | Link to this

Why is it UD fans never have any actual intelligent comments when it comes to trying to defend their program. A program with so much history and all you can brag about is attendance for the past 20 years. Thats cute. Good for you. UD fans must be the same losers who buy season tickets to watch Low A Minor League Dayton Dragons. I guess an Arena where half the fans there might as well be sitting on the moon makes it a great facility. UD basketball is nothing more than a Winter month Country Club to give the locals something to do in a dying city. I don’t even think you wanna talk about Blackburn Court being named after a racist or the UD fans who were going to protest because the basketball team was gonna start 5 blacks back in the day.

By Dear Chris

January 27, 2009 12:38 AM | Link to this

WSU: 2006-07, 10-7 non-conference; 2007-08, 9-4 non-conference. Where did you get your non-conf stats about WSU?

By Benjamin

January 27, 2009 1:35 AM | Link to this

Thanks Benjamin SmallC. Please wash my windows too. You will have to rub really hard to get the bird crap off. I just love how jealous the WSU fans are of the UD basketball program. If you were so proud and confident of your standing in Dayton and college basketball you wouldn’t have to spend so much time lamely defending your dying program. Keep dreaming and see a shrink about your inferiority complex.

By Benjamin has a SC

January 27, 2009 12:59 PM | Link to this

Poor benji… if you had a real college education instead of attending a degree factory like UD, you’d know that inferiority and superiority complexes both stem from the same emotion. We all know that UD is the big man basketball team in town. WSU isn’t afraid to play UD, and I would prefer that they didn’t. I don’t want to drive down through the ghetto in order to watch Pretentious U play basketball.

By amy katz

January 27, 2009 6:24 PM | Link to this

There are a lot of little boys posting here who must be really insecure about their manhood - if insulting each other anonymously makes you feel like a man, I feel sorry for the first girl you kiss (she’s in for a major disappointment)

By Benjamin

January 27, 2009 11:12 PM | Link to this

Sorry Benjamin SmallC if you are a racist and are too afraid to drive near downtown Dayton to see a basketball game. Stay in the suburbs of Beavercreek and hug your litle teddy bear really tight. That should make you feel safe. It’s a mean cruel world out there Benjamin SmallC. Eventually you are going to have to move out of your mommie and daddie’s basement and face it.

By XUGRAD96

January 28, 2009 3:27 PM | Link to this

All you UD fans here are a few clues to help you out. First, get a decent OOC schedule!! You are currently 18-2 and only getting 18 votes in coach’s poll. Why do you think that is? Next, try and beat X at least once. you are 0-6 last 2 years!! GO XU!!