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Is Price right for the Reds?
So you can put away your “Hire Dave Duncan” signs. The Cincinnati Reds hired former Arizona Diamondbacks coach Bryan Price as their pitching coach, shuffling aside Class AAA Louisville pitching coach Ted Power and special assistant to the general manager/minor-league pitching instructor Mario Soto.
I’m not certain Soto even wanted the job - he told me during spring training he wasn’t interested in a full-time job. But by snubbing Power the Reds could lose him. If another organization comes calling - and they will - Power probably is gone.
And who is Price?
He is 47 and never pitched in the majors. He was 31-29 during six minor-league seasons, pitching only 11 games as high as Class AAA in the Angeles and Mariners organization.
But he does have two Major League Coach of the Year awards - Baseball Weekly’s Coach of the Year in 2001 when he was pitching coach for the Mariners and Baseball America’s Coach of the Year in 2007 when he was pitching coach for the Diamondbacks.
Me? I would have preferred Power or Soto or even the return of former Reds pitching coach Don Gullett, but my general manager’s card expired years ago.
FOR SOME of you who asked, my favorite National League cities to visit:
If you want rain, go to Pittsburgh any time the Cincinnati Reds are in town and there will be enough precipitation to ruin three pairs of Cole-Haans.
If you want people, go to New York City and wander around Times Square, where on any day and at any time there will be enough people to populate a third-world country and enough nationalities for a U.N. meeting on 42nd street.
If you want heat, go to Houston, the air-conditioning capital of the world. When you emerge from an air conditioned car and into the Houston humidity, your glasses immediately fog over and your shirt turns into a soggy rag.
Those are just a few of the things embedded in my mind after traveling for 37 years with the Cincinnati Reds. If I had all the time back I spent in the nation’s airports I could add ten years to my life.
So, after much thought based on a liftetime away from home while spending time in mostly National League cities, here are my five favorite places:
SAN DIEGO — In 37 years, I saw it rain in San Diego one time and it was at a game. When they rolled out the tarpaulin to cover the field it came apart in shreds because it hadn’t been used and it had rotted away.
San Diego weather? Sub-tropical perfect. It used to be fun ducking south of the border for a Tijuana visit and a bullfight (just once — too gruesome, no matter what Ernest Hemingway writes).
Or you can visit posh La Jolla for exquisite dining at night (don’t miss Donovan’s Steakhouse) after spending the day on a fantastic beach.
And when the nags are running at Del Mar, it is one of the best horse racing emporiums in the country. When Lou Piniella managed the Reds, I once had to drag him out of the place in time for batting practice because, as he said, “I’m hot,” after hitting four winners in the first five races.
The new Petco Park is one of my favorite ballparks with all the nuances in the outfield, including the old warehouse down the left field line that houses some choice seats.
SAN FRANCISCO — A culinary delight. If you’re there a week, you can eat in a different restaurant every night and have unforgettable meals. One of my favorites is the Cathay House in Chinatown, and it’s worth it to walk through Chinatown after a meal.
The trip across the Golden Gate bridge is breathtaking and worth it to cross it to get to Sausalito and a seafood meal at Scoma’s. As you dine on the world’s best sea scallops, you look out the windows across the bay at the skyline of San Francisco.
And if you’re lucky, as I was one night, Sharon Stone might be dining at a table next to you.
Then drive the hills of Sausalito where famous artists and writers have multi-million dollar houses on stilts propped against the hills, just waiting for an earthquake.
The ballpark, AT&T Park, is my favorite, mostly because of the view of San Francisco Bay beyond the right field wall and the smell of garlic fries cooking right next to the press box.
CHICAGO — The city has everything New York has, without the hassles. I always stayed on the Magnificent Mile of Michigan Avenue and mostly window-shopped because the prices in those stores are far beyond my means. A guy can dream.
There is nothing better than Chicago-style pizza and there isn’t a better steakhouse in existence than The Saloon behind the John Hancock Tower. The first time I wandered into the place, strictly by accident, Joe Nuxhall and George Clooney were seated at the bar. With Nuxy there, I knew I was in a good place to eat (and drink).
The Lodge, a musty bar just off Rush Street that has peanut shells on the floor, is a baseball writers hangout and the Old-Style is always ice cold.
And, of course, there is Wrigley Field, baseball’s real Field of Dreams (and Nightmares for Cubs fans).
DENVER — Where else can you get buffalo meat loaf and buffalo chili? Do not order the prairie oysters. Trust me. Coors Field is in LoDo (lower downtown) and there are enough bars and restaurants within two blocks of the park to satisfy Dean Martin.
And where else can you look beyond center field and see the majesty of the snow-capped Rocky Mountains in the middle of summer. Just a half an hour away and two miles up are Central City and Blackhawk, old silver mining towns that are now casino towns, a mini-Vegas.
I once left a casino at midnight after it had snowed four inches and crept down the two-lane road with numerous switchbacks. At the bottom of the mountain in Denver it was 72 degrees.
Coors Field is a favorite, too. Where else do they have to keep the baseballs in humidors to compensate for the thin mile-high air and where else is there a micro brewery in the right field corner?
ST. LOUIS ¬— Yeah, I know. Downtown is deserted at night and they turn the traffic lights to flashing yellow and flashing red at sundown.
But the town has my favorite Italian restaurant, Charlie Gitto’s. My last trip there I ate lunch three straight days at Gitto’s and ate the same thing, sausage linguine.
There is a new casino downtown, right across the street from the domed football stadium and several other casinos up and down the Mississippi. I expect them some day to turn the Gateway Arch into a casino.
My favorite hotel, the St. Louis Westin, is directly across the street from Busch Stadium and it’s a place where you feel as if you are in your own bedroom rather than a hotel room.
Busch Stadium? You can have it. Nothing special, except that Albert Pujols plays there.
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Hall of Fame baseball writer Hal McCoy is in his 37th year of covering the Cincinnati Reds, the longest tenure for any active writer covering one team. Counting spring training and postseason games, McCoy has covered more than 7,000 major-league baseball games, written close to 18,000 baseball stories and eaten enough hot dogs to give Babe Ruth indigestion.
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By bs43
October 22, 2009 3:13 PM | Link to this
I think that Burton might surprise next year. I think he was adversely affected by Dick Pole..same as Coffey.
By Hey Moron
October 19, 2009 11:13 PM | Link to this
What a waste of typing by Nuxy: Tejada is a much better hitter than Bowden.
By theghostofnuxy
October 19, 2009 9:23 PM | Link to this
bs43 has some pretty funny stuff…..Tejada makes as about as much sense as hiring Jim Bowden back……..No matter what, your still a year away. Stubbs, JuanFraun, and Frazier need a year to adjust. Then you have to figure out who you want and who you let go after 2010. Harang, Arroyo, Coco, Rolen will all be evaluated by the allstar break. Then what do you do with the alonso-votto situation. Then you have the Janish, Frazier, Soto, Valikia issue to work out. Masset needs another to prove he is the man. Remember when we all thought Coffey and Burton were “the man” after ONE good year??….Lets face it. The reds are at an organizational crossroads. We will know by June which direction the team goes but not till then.
By Believe It Or Not
October 19, 2009 5:06 PM | Link to this
Also, if Tejada cannot be gotten; then I’d move Phillips to SS-and find a good stick for second base. I disagree with Baker, that this move weakens two positions—it does just the opposite!
By Believe It Or Not
October 19, 2009 4:57 PM | Link to this
bs43 has good ideas-but I would consider the following: Go to a four man rotation, perhaps with minimal spot starts from someone in bullpen, or AAA pitcher. In addition, I’d keep Dickerson in CF{his natural position}-alternating with Stubbs vs righty-lefty opponents—Neither has proven themselves; and the competition would be good for the ballclub. I’d agree with bs on everything else; except I’d keep Cordero. The Reds will compete for the division title next year, with him. They won’t, without him. It will be two years ago re-visited, in the pen without a solid closer!
By Eric
October 19, 2009 3:20 PM | Link to this
The real question is why the Reds haven’t fired Brook Jacoby. The Reds were the 2nd worst hitting team in baseball the last two seasons, hitting a ridiculous .247 each season. Instead, they fire the pitching coach. Brilliant.
By Tom
October 19, 2009 2:16 PM | Link to this
The new Busch Stadium seems dark even when the lights are on. Price is Jocketty’s man and is a forerunner to getting rid of Dusty.
By bs43
October 19, 2009 12:18 PM | Link to this
I like the Price hire, but they have so much more to do. #1—Trade Cordero for a starting pitcher. (Cordero reminds me of Don Stanhouse.) #2—Trade Harang and Janish to the Astros for flame throwing prospects. #3- Sign Miguel Tejada to a 3 year deal (I believe he is a free agent.) #4—Release Taveras unless you can get someone to bite on him. That gives you Arroyo, Bailey, Cueto, the guy you pick up for Cordero, and a 5th up for grabs. Masset is the new closer. Fransisco/Gomes platoon in left (assuming Gomes re-signs) Stubbs in Center Bruce, Dickerson, or Nix in right—One of those 3 don’t make the team-if Nix isn’t re-signed the choice is easy. I forgot #5 If Hernandez can work out a deal for 8 million for 2 years sign him..otherwise go with Hannigan and Miller.
By MisterRedLegs
October 19, 2009 9:10 AM | Link to this
Price is now in control of the entire Reds pitching staff from the minors to the majors. This will work until Jocketty retires in a year and someone else will want control. The soap opera will continue. Ted Power will go somewhere else and will soon be considered a genius.
By Sal Monelli
October 19, 2009 3:16 AM | Link to this
Hey db , you win, yes your post is now the dumbest ever, do you understand English? Hhat a moron. Have you ever heard of capitalization? BAWAAHAHAAA! LOL!!!!
By db
October 18, 2009 6:31 PM | Link to this
hey sal , you win, yes your post is the dumbest ever, do you understand english? what a moron
By outanames
October 18, 2009 5:12 PM | Link to this
I hope the same people who were thinking Dave Duncan realize he never pitched in the Majors as well.
By Sal Monelli
October 18, 2009 3:51 PM | Link to this
Mike-Cinty: “Whatchu talkin’ bout, Willis?” Seriously, Mike, yours is the dumbest post EVER on this site and man, that’s REALLY sayin’ somethin’. Try making sense some time.
By RC
October 18, 2009 12:26 PM | Link to this
I like Ted Power, but I’m one of those who likes the idea of bringing in fresh blood from outside the organization. Seeing as how the organization hasn’t been organizing so well, and such. I’m cool with it.
By Jerry
October 18, 2009 11:38 AM | Link to this
I would have liked to see Ted Power since pitchers seem to do well in AAA but seem to change their delivery when they made it to Cincy. Maybe Ted was on to something with the Reds’ prospects.
By Mike-Cinci
October 18, 2009 11:08 AM | Link to this
I’m OK with passing on old Reds for coaching jobs. Price has won awards as a pitching coach. Give him a chance. We might get to like his results. Getting some outsiders into the organization could be a good thing. Some folks, and I do NOT mean our man Hal, complain about everything. They must have a miserable life. Not every move the Reds make is a mistake. Time will tell on Price. Sitting in Yankee stadium for 5+ hours in a $300 seat in rain, wind, and 30 degree temperature is something to complain about.
By Clint
October 18, 2009 8:31 AM | Link to this
My guess is they got Price on the cheap.
By michael
October 18, 2009 7:28 AM | Link to this
Glad the Reds hired from the outside. I like seeing the old Reds, but hiring the good ole boys just hasn’t worked. The players may all like Power, but that is not what gets it done. They don’t need another buddy, they need a coach.
By Jeremy
October 18, 2009 3:21 AM | Link to this
Hal, you can’t be serious. Busch Stadium is a million times better all around the Great American Ballpark, hands down.
By BrarHopper
October 18, 2009 2:43 AM | Link to this
Thanks Hal. Yeah, I find this appointment of Price very disappointing. Ted Power was the natural guy. Wonder why they (who is they? Walt? Dusty?) choose this guy. Never pitched in the majors? So much for empathy. Oh well, look what a good manager Jim Tracy is and Lasorda and Sparky were…lousy pro careers. If this is the Reds big offseason splash, then, well… yawn. Time to hibernate. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.