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Votto-Bruce: Friendly competition

Questions and comments:

Is Milwaukee’s Prince Fielder the heaviest vegetarian in the world or does he just keep eating very big carrots?

When first baseman Fielder couldn’t scoop a throw out of the dirt, somebody in the press box said, “The only thing he can scoop is ice cream.”

It’s a tough crowd, a tough crowd.

ANOTHER ONE from a Milwaukee person, this one about former Reds pitcher Todd Coffey, now pitching for the Brewers.

“When he took his shirt off we thought his name should be Todd Coffey & Donuts.”

ON THE BRIGHTER side, Rita Butcher, mother to Reds media relations director Rob Butcher, brings homemade pies to the press box a couple of times a year. This week she brought some apple and some pumpkin.

Best pumpkin pie I ever had. Then I tried a piece of the apple. Best apple pie I ever had. That’s makes Rita Butcher three-for-three, because her strawberry pie is not only gthe best strawberry pie I ever had, but the best pie EVER.

MILWAUKEE BREWERS were 5 1/2 games up in the wild card two weeks ago. They are 4-14 in September. Some teams have a pennant race, the Brewers have a sausage race.

The fun at the expense of so-called contenders continues for the Cincinnati Reds — a bunch of guys who entered late with no marbles and are taking away everybody else’s marbles.

It all began two weeks ago when the Reds took two of three from the Chicago Cubs in Great American Ball Park.

Then they took two of three in Milwaukee, two of three in Arizona and came home to take two of three from St. Louis.

Every one of those defeats were dagger-stabs to the losing teams.

On Friday night in Great American. they began torturing the Milwaukee Brewers again, an 11-2 annihilation that put another carpenter’s nail in Milwaukee’s playoff door.

Before the game, manager Dusty Baker said emphatically, “I’d like to end this weekend on a very-high note.”

How about a high ‘C?’

The Reds slammed seven home runs, two each by Joey Votto and Jay Bruce, plus one each by Jerry Hairston Jr., Jolbert Cabrera and pinch-hitter Andy Phillips.

First baseman Yonder Alonso, the Reds’ No. 1 draft pick in June, was in the park and Votto figured he would show the kid that he won’t be giving up his job without a skirmish.

Both Votto and Bruce own 21 home runs. They are friends, yes. They are in friendly competition, yes.

Asked if they were, Votto said, “Very, very much so. We get on each other and there is a little half-smirk when one or the other does something. I guess it is called one upmanship. He is one of those guys who is just so good that it is nice to have someone at that level to compete with.”

Votto hit the longest, but he smiled and said, “A homer is a homer. He hit two today and so did I.”

Bruce smiled equally wide over the competition question with Votto.

“It is friendly competition,” he said. “We push it other unconsciously — I mean subconsciously. If we were unconscious we wouldn’t be awake.”

Both are wide, wide awake.

“We just have a good time, play the game hard and let our abilities take care of itself,” Bruce added.

Baker sees the competition, too, and likes it;.

“It is good to see them matching each other and it shows how bright our future is and how bright their future is,” he said. “They’re good friends. They hang together, they play catch together. That’s what you want. You want those guys close. There is no envy and no jealousy involved.”

Baker asked what the record is for a rookie hitting home runs, since Votto and Bruce are rookies and when somebody said, “Frank Robinson, 38,” Baker laughed and said, “Whoa. That’s one that is going to stand for a long time and has stood for a long time.”

Rookie Ramon Ramirez won his first major-league game, holding the Brewers to two runs and seven hits over six innings.

The Reds had five runs in the first inning before starting pitcher Jeff Suppan recorded an out — on his 17th pitch — enabling Ramirez to coast as if he were on The Beast at Kings Island.

Hairston led the bottom of the first with a single, Wilkin Cabrera beat a bunt single and Votto drilled his 20th home run. Cabrera singled and Bruce crashed his 20th home run to make it 5-0.

Adam Rosales grounded out for the first out record by Suppan.

Votto’s 21st home run, leading off the third, made it 6-0, then Hairston’s fourth homer, a two-run shot in the fourth, made it 8-0.

The home runs kept coming and it looked as if the stacks in center field would run out of smoke or the Reds would be charged by the Environmental Protection Agency with pollution.

It added up to Cincinnati’s eighth win in their last 11 games and another victory over a contender fast becoming a pretender. Milwaukee is nine games behind the Cubs in the National League Central and 2 1/2 games behind in the National League wild card standings.

It was the second time this season the Reds hit seven homers in Great American, a park record. On May 7 against the Cubs Votto hit three, while Adam Dunn, Brandon Phillips, Paulo Bako and Hairston each hit one.

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By Kevin

September 23, 2008 12:38 AM | Link to this

Well Wiz….Thats the great thing about this blog. We can all speculate and play armchair manager and quite frankly I enjoy it! Wow...thats a bold view on CP, and you you probably should duck if you dont have a football helmet on!! Personally I just cant see it. Hes been given every chance in the world to turn his season around and it just hasnt happened. One thing we have to keep in mind is that hes occupying a very valuable spot on the 40 man roster that could be used to protect a younger player. I understand what youre saying about insurance considering the futures of Freel and Hopper are up in the air so you could be right. Like I shouted over the fence to Brett Butler(Dodgers at that time) on fan appreciation day in 1990…”Man…it`s gonna be a looong cold winter”!!!

By Wizard

September 22, 2008 9:32 PM | Link to this

You are correct when yo say EE was painful to watch at times this season. I too wonder about Alonzo being ready by this Spring—I certainly have seen very little of him—so how could I, or anyone, predict about him. I’m guessing, and projecting things which would be a result of his exploding on the scene.I am going to make another remark that won’t be appreciated by the majority on here: Many times players in the major leagues have “off”, sometimes “terrible” years—as our Corey Patterson did this year—his play irritated all of us, especially hitting and baserunning.I think he will be kept, as “insurance”, defensively. In addition, I think he will get comfortable in Cincy—and have a good year next season. Many times players rebound from bad seasons—I predict he will do the same. I don’t think this season is a true measure of his abilities.I think they may give Dickerson a look in Center, and keep Corey behind him as insurance—in case Dickerson flops. Just my opinion—should I duck now? You may be absolutely correct in your thoughts Kevin.

By Kevin

September 22, 2008 7:55 PM | Link to this

Well Wiz Im not so sure...I think EE has had so many negative experiences at third that its gotten into his head. I think given the chance to move to another position might take some of the pressure off and might even produce better numbers at the plate. And ya I know Yonder isnt ready yet...it was just a thought for EE. The guy still has great "P" and considering we need that right handed bat Id hate to see them give up on him.

By somethingbetter

September 22, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this

maybe the sportswriter meant the Reds rookie record for HRs is 38 by Frank Robinson…

By Wizard

September 21, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this

And, a month before that I was saying there were numerous options for left field, if we got rid of Griffey and Dunn—including Votto to left—I still think that is a better move than moving EE—play Alonso at first!

By Kevin

September 21, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this

Guys… i was saying that a week or so before we signed Yonder. Signing the kid gives us a couple of options. I like Votto, Dickerson, Bruce in the outfield. We also have to look at Yonder at third leaving Votto at first and moving EE to left with Dickerson and bruce in center and right. I`ve watched Yonder play guys and he can RAKE! I can see him turning some heads this Spring…mark my words!!

By Gary Maloy Jr.

September 21, 2008 3:37 AM | Link to this

ShockMonkey, I’ve been thinking the same thing (OF: Votto-Dickerson-Bruce) since Yonder was drafted. We simply cannot let Joey slip out of town. I am a bit afraid of one thing though… Have we hired a Prince Fielder wannabe? Gawd I hope not.

By Mr. Redlegs (Original)

September 20, 2008 10:19 PM | Link to this

Hey Aaron, you mean the good ol’ boys corporate network that is in full effect to hire inexperienced young hacks because they are cheap, or the policy to hire minorities for the sack of them being minorities, which is reverse discrimination on three huge levels, or the network that shoves long-time employees out the door with not-so-golden parachutes or by eliminating positions altogether? Right. Show us that old boy network again. Blowhard.

By Bill Lawrence

September 20, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this

As for Aaron, do you think that he is a want to be because he doesn’t play well with others? Every sensible person who read the story knew that they were discussing the team record.

By Mark in Sun Valley

September 20, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this

Baker is protecting Patterson and Bako from CC. He needs them to finish the year above .200 so he can demand they be resigned for next year based on performance.

By HuberTucky

September 20, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this

WHAT!?!! No Bako or Patterson? Dusty must be in a deep depression…he better double up on the Prozac! Hey Dusty, step back fro the edge of the bridge!!! It’s just not worth it. The sun will be out tomorrow…it’ll be okay…now give me your hand.

By Y-City Jim

September 20, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this

Cause for celebration today. No Bako or Patterson in the line-up.

By HuberTucky

September 20, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this

Aaron, never heard of you. Why are you being such a terd to our man Hal? Back off, Buckwheat!

By ShockMonkey

September 20, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this

So let’s say Yonder is indeed ready to play at this level. Now what? Move Votto to the OF? I still like Votto, Dickerson, and Bruce. Of course, one must keep Patterson in the mix if Dusty is still around. sarcasam

By John

September 20, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this

as far as the rookie record for homeruns, it very well COULD have been what is the REDS rookie record for homeruns, in which the answer is indeed Frank R. w/ 38. But I don’t know I wasn’t there. I just know that Hal McCoy is the best and anybody that disses Hal knows NOTHING about baseball.

By Kevin

September 20, 2008 5:00 AM | Link to this

Go back and read the column…Hal was relaying what he heard someone say. It wasnt he who said "Robinson hit 38" it was another writer. This man is a Hall of Famer and a legend and hes earned a certain level of respect…get off his back!!

By Ryan

September 20, 2008 4:58 AM | Link to this

Last I checked, Aaron, statistician wasn’t in the job description of a baseball beat writer. “Superior talent?” I don’t know of any better than Hal. Stop taking this so seriously. It’s almost as if you have a vendetta against baseball beat writers; which is really kind of sad when you think about it.

By Kevin

September 20, 2008 4:55 AM | Link to this

If all Fielder eats is veggies they gotta be deep fried!!

By Aaron

September 20, 2008 1:36 AM | Link to this

Yea I immediately knew the answer was McGuire with 49.. you writers aren’t nearly as bright as you think you are, you could be replaced in a heartbeat with superior talent if it weren’t for the good boys network in full effect.

By Carl's Little Brother

September 20, 2008 1:01 AM | Link to this

Very elementary Sherlock, “steroids” BTW, how many did Bonds hit in his rookie year?

By Bowshier

September 20, 2008 12:50 AM | Link to this

Mark McGwire hit 49 Homers as a relatively scrawny rookie in 1987.

By Carl's Little Brother

September 19, 2008 11:08 PM | Link to this

Yes, Votto and Bruce. The future. What was the name of those other guys that hit home runs, struck out and hit into DP”s? Driffy and Gunn? I can’t seem to remember. Now if we could just get rid of Dave Maker.
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