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Butler County commission forum - The nepotism question
At the Butler County commission candidates forum tonight (see details below), a question about nepotism brought responses ranging from condemnation to apology.
“I’ve had the opportunity to cast my vote on thousands of issues over the years, and there’s one I’d like to take back,” said incumbent Commission President Gregory Jolivette. “It got by me, and I apologize for that.”
Jolivette was referring to voting on the hiring of his son and daughter as county employees, which has him under an ongoing Ohio Ethics Commission investigation — one of the reasons why he faces so many same-party challengers.
Challenger Wes Retherford proposed something similar to a civil service commission to handle county hiring. “So that way politics and nepotism and friends don’t come into play, so it’s actually about hiring the best person for that job,” he said.
Pail Nenni argued that a charter government would help reduce political patronage by reducing autonomous elected officeholders.
Jose Alvarez said the county’s tainted history of nepotism and patronage allegations are “ruining” its reputation among businesses, and the county must act above reproach, “so there’s not even an inkling or suspicion there’s things going on.”
Cindy Carpenter said salary studies for county staffers are “long overdue.”
“I believe that we’re going to discover once we have those studies that some people are overpaid,” she said.
As for Jesse Von Stein, “I have fired my relatives, and I would do it again tomorrow,” he said.
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By REALLY
April 7, 2010 1:59 PM | Link to this
come on carpenter was not even in the top 3 of our party’s endorsement vote for commissioner. she minipulated and politicized the “no votes” after she was cut and now thinks the GOP want her in office. NOT. Her tactics are transparent and she has ran the clerks office in the same manipulative manner. she is nothing but a politcial hack and her time has past. she needs to be out our party and out of office just like her mentor mike fox.
By LovinLife
April 8, 2010 8:58 AM | Link to this
if we are talking nepotism and cronyism carpenter is second only to furmon in county government. carpenters son is working for the county and she has more hamilton and fairfield politicos family and friends on her payroll than you could believe. she is the problem not the answer to the problem.
By boehnerisms
April 8, 2010 3:04 PM | Link to this
The status quo of 3 Republicans, pick any 3, will result in more of the same. Time for a change. I think I recall in the last go around that someone was going to clean up Butler County politics. We’re still waiting.
By forcarpenter
April 8, 2010 8:39 PM | Link to this
I really am getting sick about the comments related to her son. I view it as a personal attack not anything related to this race. He got the job on his own and has retained it. Talk to anyone at the sheriff’s office or any county computer people. They will tell you that he has phenomonal computer skills and is really intelligent.
By Right
April 9, 2010 1:03 PM | Link to this
forcarpenter so jollys kids got the summer jobs through someone else to he didnt hire them. what about cindy hiring the sheriffs son at the same time now she has his endorsement in the paper and on her letters? its not a personal attack its a fact and it is related since thats the only reason she is running
By By Grow UP
April 10, 2010 8:20 PM | Link to this
Jolly VOTED to have his son employed!!! Get your facts right. Cindy’s son filled out an application and applied for the position, he was not hired as a favor!!! FYI, he doesn’t even tell people who his mother is, because he doesn’t want anyone to think he gets special treatment. Oh, and it is a personal attack, it has nothing to do with this race. AND, he makes WAY less money working for the sheriff than he would any where else with his skills. It is not an extra bonus for him to have his job!! Ask anyone at the sheriffs department who else could do his job. Why not attack her family in other ways? Would you like to make comments about her handicapped daughter? Maybe that gives her a leg up in the race. How low can you get? Leave family out of it. As far as “cronyism” and nepotism…BS. Cindy is not someone who trades favors for people. As a matter of fact, she has butted heads with the best of them over things she strongly believed in. She doesn’t fold to please people, she fights for what is right. It is against the law to hire someone you are related to. I am sure that she has grown close to her employees considering she has been there for 13 years. That isn’t nepotism, that is a good boss. She doesn’t strike me as someone who is running because of “what’s in it for her”. Maybe we should ask Alvarez what’s in it for him. I wonder how much money he made off the West Chester development projects?? Or future projects?? I think you have to more to worry about than Cindy and where her son works. Do your research.
By XRumerTest
April 12, 2010 5:52 AM | Link to this
Hello. And Bye.
By outofhere
April 12, 2010 8:22 AM | Link to this
if Carpenters son is so talented then why is he still on the county payroll. this more of the same bs put out by carpenter and her crew. someone needs to check her payroll, there are favors out there, over and over and over again! as far as carpenter not telling anyone who is mother is - DUH - this is exactly why they tried to keep it quite - because he and she and everyone else knows it is just wrong.
By DUH
April 12, 2010 12:12 PM | Link to this
Listen, Einstein, it’s none of your business who’s payroll her son is on as long as it’s not hers!!! Are oblivious to the fact that family members CAN and DO work for the same county…As far as her sons talent, we will make sure to send the inmates your way, when the systems crash at the jail and he can’t fix it because he only works there as a favor and has no skill. LOL…you all make yourself sound ignorant.You have a lot of talk but lets see your facts. You don’t think people check her payroll?? As far as anyone trying to keep anything quiet, thats really not possible, is it?? You have lots of rumors to spew but no documentation to back it up. What are your motives besides trying to run people through the mud. It’s time to wear your grown up pants and act like an adult.
By DUH is not an intellegint word
April 12, 2010 12:14 PM | Link to this
Listen, Einstein, it’s none of your business who’s payroll her son is on as long as it’s not hers!!! Are oblivious to the fact that family members CAN and DO work for the same county…As far as her sons talent, we will make sure to send the inmates your way, when the systems crash at the jail and he can’t fix it because he only works there as a favor and has no skill. LOL…you all make yourself sound ignorant.You have a lot of talk but lets see your facts. You don’t think people check her payroll?? As far as anyone trying to keep anything quiet, thats really not possible, is it?? You have lots of rumors to spew but no documentation to back it up. What are your motives besides trying to run people through the mud. It’s time to wear your grown up pants and act like an adult.
By I wonder!
April 12, 2010 7:13 PM | Link to this
Sounds to me like Ken Carpenter is a blogger. I’m sure he is posting! Why else would someone be so defensive over a blog!
By I wonder!
April 12, 2010 7:14 PM | Link to this
Sounds to me like Ken Carpenter is a blogger. I’m sure he is posting! Why else would someone be so defensive over a blog!
By null
April 16, 2010 11:01 AM | Link to this
I am a long time county employee and have seen the numerous backdoor dealings of the county commissioners, the county personnel office, Mr. Derek Conklin and the republican political machine of Butler County. The worst criminals do not have to carry a gun, the power of the pen can harm more people. All 3 current commissioners need removed from office due to the crimes committed by former county administrator Derek Conklin…for any of you out there that didn’t think the 3 commishes weren’t aware of his attempted early buy out scandal…you are wrong!! Amazingly no one was held accountable for multiple raises.folks these are crimes being committed with your tax dollarswhere are the so called investigative reporters.you are being robbed with the swipe of their pensHow can we forget about their appointment of Fox as a Child Welfare Director…what an embarrassing joke…if any of you folks think you are smart enough and want to piece together a huge scandal… start with the county employee record of Donald Richardson…fired from 3 county jobs but somehow manages to get another !!! This is butler county in a nutshell…people are hired for who they know…people are are fired for not being loyal to the “good ‘ol boys”…not hard to prove…make your vote count vote for real reformvote for educated professionals to run the county…not uneducated, unprofessional career politicians. Jolivette is more like Boss Tweed!!! get rid of him!!! Folks just look what is going in Cuyahoga County in the past year and you can ditto that for Butler countywake the hell up! Josh when are you going to do some real investigative work…you can start with Donald Richardson’s county personnel file…it is a public record! But Mr. Jollivette might object to pulling it! {LOL}
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