By Savanation

March 16, 2009 4:20 PM | Link to this

In a recent newspaper article, Mr. Michael Fox seems to place his view of what is right and wrong over what should be paramount, the needs of the child. Mr. Fox says his agency wanted to create a clear policy which reflects the beliefs of most people who live in Butler County. He goes on the say that “In San Francisco they may have a different approach to this issue. But in Butler County,Ohio, I think our community honors and respects the institution of marriage.” I have to wonder just which part of the institution of marriage Mr. Fox thinks that San Franciscans do not honor or respect. Is there a major problem in San Francisco with children being placed in rotten homes and being beaten daily? Nor do I understand what placing a child in need of love and attention with a loving couple, straight or gay, or qualified single person, has to do with what beliefs Mr. Fox ascribes to the people of Butler County. It is Mr. Fox’s desire that if Butler County is solidly in the Rush Limbaugh belief system then only Dittoheads should be able to adopt? Mr. Fox’s rule states that when all other things are equal, married couples would be given the advantage. Just who determines what other things are equal? Couple “A” are nice people, male and female, married, just getting by financially, love children, High School educated, live in a nice home in a mediocre school system. Couple “B” are nice people, two women, would love to be married but can’t, very well off financially, love children, both with Master’s degrees, live in a very nice home in the best school district around. I wonder if Mr. Fox, ignoring the phrase “two women, would love to be married but can’t”,would say that all other things are equal? With which couple would Mr. Fox, using the “beliefs of most people who live in Butler County”, place the child who is yearning to be loved and cared for? Which couple is really in the best interest of the child? And which couple would get the child because they are what Mr.Fox personally deems to be correct in a Butler County way? Mr. Fox it might be a good idea to put the “beliefs of most people of Butler County”(strangely, they voted for Bush, twice) further back in your mind and put the best interests of the child first. It is possible to determine which things are most equal as long as you don’t go into the decision making process with preconceived narrow minded views. It is always fascinating to me that those who so pompously support “traditional marriage” think that the “traditional” couple who have the police at their door every three weeks for domestic trouble are “married” but the loving,caring gay couple down the street are unworthy of being “married”. There are so many children out there who would love to have a happy home. And children being born who don’t know what a happy home is yet but they will yearn for it later. I don’t think they need Mr. Fox or Phil Burress to find bigoted obstacles to keep them from that home. I don’t think I have “distorted facts” and if someone thinks and talks and acts as a bigot, I bet they are bigots. The children don’t have a choice. They could easily be placed with a family of Christian Conservative who haven’t had a reasonable thought in fifty years. We need to save our children and make sure this fate never happens to them.

By Don Carpenter

March 16, 2009 5:04 PM | Link to this

One wonders, what savanation will do when he can’t kick Mike Fox around any more?

By Savanation

March 16, 2009 6:22 PM | Link to this

Probably point out silliness and thoughtlessness in in others who think they speak for “all the people”. There are a lot of those folks running around. Oh, Don, I was right, wasn’t I? You forgot to mention that part.

By For once, get to the point Savanation (AKA Jim Mignerey) without attacks

March 16, 2009 11:41 PM | Link to this

Thanks for never disappointing us Jimmy. Once again you ramble on far longer than needed to make your point. And, as always, you attack others to do it. Frankly, it’s not your views that concern me, but the manner in which you’re frequently allowed to publicly express them beyond here to the pages of the Journal-News. I can’t help but think that others outside this area view us all as a bit dumber for it.

By Savanation

March 17, 2009 7:53 AM | Link to this

Believe me, with the record of Butler County in voting for president and in voting against anything which may be of benefit to the American people, “a bit dumber” would be a marked improvement. Interesting that someone stating views of the majority of the American people would bother you. As usual when someone states the simple facts, and please try to find anything which I have ever said which is not a fact, you call them attacks or lies. If you would have thought about facts and lies during 2000 and 2004 election, you would not have caused this country to be in the terrible sahpe you have put it in. So, don’t be hopeful that I will go away.

By One vote for Buh-tler County’s Literacy Ambassador

March 17, 2009 10:02 AM | Link to this

Mignerey, people like you put the “duh” in Butler County. Again, it’s not your view here that’s at issue, nor your right like anyone else has to express it. It’s your capacity to comprehend what others share and your inability to publicly communicate in a concise, non-denigrating manner.

By Savanation

March 17, 2009 11:06 AM | Link to this

Let me be concise and non-denigrating. This so-called “traditional marriage proposal” is bigoted non-sensical bullcrap. Concise, yes. Non-denigrating? Well, possibly to bulls.