By Savanation

August 29, 2008 10:07 PM | Link to this

So they couldn’t find anyone else who would go down with the ship? Only a Republican would consider putting a completely inexperienced, Ann Coulter wannabe, who stated that she doesn’t know what the Vice President does (well, with Cheney no one did anyway), a heart beat behind a geriatric, cancer prone Bush clone.Let’s see, the Republicans have graced the office of the Vice Presidency with Nixon - a crook, Agnew - crook, Quale - an incompetenet zilch, Cheney - a murdering coward, and now the runner up to Miss Alaska. Has it ever occured to anyone that the Republican Party just isn’t too bright?

By eddie

August 30, 2008 8:02 AM | Link to this

Great pick by the great John Mccain. What I hear about her is that she could probably kick both osama obama and biden behind by herself. On to the White House. YEA!

By Don Carpenter

August 30, 2008 8:02 AM | Link to this

So, we are going at it already? Well, savanation, you are going to have to do better than that. At least Senator McCain had the courage to do what BO couldn’t and that is be willing to share the ticket with a woman. No matter how you slice it, B Hussein Obama didn’t have the chutzpah to choose Hillary because if he had, it would have been checkmate, game over. Now, seriously, at least this lady has some executive experience and she has VALUES that are important to those of us who are pro life and pro family. You’re just gonna have to get a grip.

By Savanation

August 30, 2008 8:43 AM | Link to this

Don says: “this lady has some executive experience and she has VALUES that are important to those of us who are pro life and pro family” Interesting. Don thinks it is just fine to offer the possibility that this incompetent could sit in the chair of the most powerful leader in the world. If President Obama had made such a total blunder you would be laughing your head off. Don’t give me that “Pro-Life and Pro-Family crap. You voted for the most anti-family and anti-life fool ever to set foot in the White House. Pro-Life? Which part of the Pro-Life manual covers killing thousands, including 4000 of his own men in a totally witless and immoral savagery, created by lies for no reason at all. You caused those deaths by voting for the “Pro-Life” Bush. Does your family resort to torture a whole lot? I guess those are the family values your family espouses.Does your family have a Constitution Trashing party every time Bush does something illegal? Has anyone in your “family” lost the value of their life because Bush and you stiffled real science in their quest to save lives? Is your family and it’s “values” covered by health insurance? 45,000,000 Americans are not, because they can’t affor it and eat at the same time. You and your Family Value President have done everything you could to stop needed healthcare for everyone in this great country. But, Oh, I forgot, you are in favor of more millions for those who already have billions. Sort of makes you warm and fuzzy doesn’t it, Don? Do I want someone who “doesn’t know what the Vice President does” and who “hasn’t thought much about Iraq”, a heart beat away from the Oval Office. No I don’t. You do, don’t you Don? What does that say about you and you Pro-Life and Family Values”? All the soldiers you killed and want to continue killing might have an idea about your “values”.

By anghiari

August 30, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

The real test for voters is to vote the country’s best interest. Republican David Frum has this to say about Senator McCain’s choice. ‘Think about what the Palin pick really says about how McCain views this campaign and how he views his potential responsibilities in national security. Think about what it says about the sincerity of McCain’s own central criticism of Obama these past two months in foreign affairs. Think about how he picked a woman to be a heartbeat away from a war presidency who hadn’t even thought much, by her own admission, about the Iraq war as late as 2007. Think about how he made this decision barely knowing the woman. Think about the fact that the most McCain could say about his potential war-time vice-president in foreign affairs and national security when selecting her is that she commanded Alaska’s National Guard as governor and has a son in the military. Think about the men and women serving this country who have every right to trust that their potential commander-in-chief, whatever their party, would have some record of even interest in foreign policy before assuming office. Think about how the key factor in this decision was not who could defend this country were something dreadful happen to McCain in office but how to tread as much on Obama’s convention bounce and use women’s equality as a wedge issue among Democrats because it might secure a few points here or there. Oh, and everyone would be surprised. And even Rove would be annoyed. This is his sense of honor and judgment. This is his sense of responsibility and service. Here’s the real slogan the McCain campaign should now adopt: Putting. Country. Last.”

By anghiari

August 30, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this

For those in Ohio who have embraced Senator McCain’s choice… have you also looked at how his policies are going to effect your day to day life? Middle class Republicans rarely vote their own personal and financial interests, i.e. health care, economic security, social security, education. What they do and have always done is vote the interest of the richest in our nation(the people who run the Republican party). Why is that? The trickle down affect is not working. Maintaining the status quo for a guy with seven homes does not assure you that you will be able to pay your mortgage in 6 months or that your child is going to be able to go to a four year college rather than the community college. Ms. Palin, who is probably a really nice person, but has not thought through how to negotiate policy on nuclear proliferation or free trade or veteran’s health care and benefits? You may think that is not a problem? Why? because they have yet to shoot a missile into downtown Washington D.C.? 9/11 is our reminder that we cannot afford leadership that is amateur night out. The nicest person doesn’t get to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency because she is a nice person. Sometimes politics is as precise and intricate as heart surgery…and you want the best possible heart surgeon and politician doing the tough job. What happened to those Republican women who have been on the hill working with Joe Biden. Republican women who can give him a challenge on the discussion of foreign policy.We would love to think just anybody could do the job of VP, but we can’t and 9/11 ought to be the lesson that reminds us of that.

By anghiari

August 30, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this

I would love to hear from one of the Republican women who has served in Congress for the past 10-15 years working on critical issues that face this country…make the case for why Ms. Palin was better qualified for VP than any one of them.

By She beats Obama's experience

August 30, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this

I wish she had more time in office, but then again, she has more time in government and certainly more executive experience (both in the public and private sector) than Obama - whose running for the top job. And, in all seriousness, I still cannont comprehend how Obama’s community organizer days qualifies him to run any business, let alone this country. At least Palin has a track record of results for the number two spot whereby Obama has only a lot of rhetoric to support his. And, the fact that Democrats are so deperate to put someone who is less than the best that they have to give to this role to regain the White House is very sad.

By Savanation

August 30, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this

Boy all the nutcases are coming out of the woodwork. (She beats…)says”she has more time in government and certainly more executive experience (both in the public and private sector) than Obama” Sen. Obama worked for years helping poor people and people struggling to live on the South Side of Chiago, one of the toughest neighbors hoods in the nation and had great success. She was a parttime councilperson of a hamlet in Alaska. Sen. Obama was a successful State Senator in one of the biggest and most complex states in the country. She was a part time mayor of a hamlet in Alaska. He was elected United States Senator of one of the biggest and most complex states in America and has proven a leader in the Senate. She became governor of a state which has more mooses than people after her party had to throw out the other corrupt candidates they tried to put through. She says she doesn’t know what the Vice President does and that she has not thought much about Iraq. She graduated in Journalism from the University of Idahowith a bachelors degree. Sen. Obama has a bachelors, a masters and a Dr. of Law from Harvard and has taught Constitution Law at the University of Chicago after being named Editor of the Harvard Law Review, the greatest honor a law student can have in the United States. She was runner up to Miss Alaska. According to (she beats…) Palin has more experience than Sen. Obama. Obviously (she beats…) has the same problem with logic as does Sen. McCain.

By Savanation

August 30, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

From an Editoial in the Fairbanks (Alaska) News-Miner: “She has never publicly demonstrated the kind of interest, much less expertise, in federal issues and foreign affairs that should mark a candidate for the second-highest office in the land. Republicans rightfully have criticized the Democratic nominee, Sen. Barack Obama, for his lack of experience, but Palin is a neophyte in comparison; how will Republicans reconcile the criticism of Obama with the obligatory cheering for Palin?…Most people would acknowledge that, regardless of her charm and good intentions, Palin is not ready for the top job. McCain seems to have put his political interests ahead of the nation’s when he created the possibility that she might fill it. It’s clear that McCain picked Palin for reasons of image, not substance. Lately her reputation within the state has been bit by allegations of mixing political and family business, and by mistreating one of the state’s premier marine mammals. Palin’s catch-phrase of “openness and transparency” has been tarnished by revelations that staff members tried to have Palin’s former brother-in-law fired from his job as an Alaska state trooper. Also, the governor of the only state with polar bears has adamantly opposed listing the animals as a threatened species, despite strong evidence that global warming has devastated their sea ice environment off Alaska’s coast. Dermot Cole, a longtime columnist for Alaska’s second largest newspaper, the Fairbanks Daily News-Miner, called McCain’s choice of Palin “reckless” and questioned her credentials. “Sarah Palin’s chief qualification for being elected governor was that she was not Frank Murkowski,” Cole said of her enormously unpopular predecessor, who lost favor with Alaskans in part because of unpopular budget cuts. “She was not elected because she was a conservative. She was not elected because of her grasp of issues or because of her track record as the mayor of Wasilla.” These are the people who know her.

By Those who can do, those who can't talk, and talk...

August 30, 2008 6:00 PM | Link to this

Savanation – Are you new to blogs or are you just unable to briefly define a few key points on your own, let alone do so without copying so many words from others in an attempt to make your own (like both Biden and Obama). But, to drill down on your comment about Obama’s community organizer days, quantify it or give a link to something substantive, else you sound like you copied this too from one of the campaign’s many, many talking points. And, while you’re reviewing their talking points, please explain why Obama voted present so often while in the State Senate. I understand the use of his degrees over hers, but if that were truly the case, then how do you explain Bush with his MBA, let alone why Obama’s infomercial in Denver excluded his own college days? And, sorry, but given my knowledge of newspapers, your being a bit foolish in trusting editorial board comments, especially those made by those as small as the News-Minus.

By Savanation

August 30, 2008 8:56 PM | Link to this

(Those who….)says: “your being a bit foolish in trusting editorial board comments, especially those made by those as small as the News-Minus.” Uh, that’s News-Miner. Guess you are new to blogs. I am sure that Gov Palin would love for you to call the newspapers of her state as being small. I am sure that they are important to the citizens of Alaska. And i can’t think of anyone who would know more about Gov. Palin than the newspapers of her home state. So you are saying that the leading newspapers of Phoenix do not have the right, or the knowledge of the subject to speak about Sen. McCain? Bush’s MBA, Harvard’s undying shame? It is amazing what money and the name of a former President can do for their children. One would think that if Bush earned that degree he would have used some intelligence at some point in his presidency. Why not show Obama’s college days in that biography? Could be that he was brilliantly intelligent would soon be apparent in the speech to come. As it was. Perhaps you will try posting on this blog again sometime in the future when you actually have something worth saying.

By anghiari

August 30, 2008 9:35 PM | Link to this

Those women who are so quickly willing to embrace Sarah Palin ought to go on YouTube.com and listen to Ms. Palin being interviewed over the radio in Alaska and listen to the male radio host called one of Alaska’s other female elected officials the “B” word. This woman is also a cancer survivor and the guy calls her a “cancer” Ms. Palin sits there and laughs never stopping or reprimanding him for his language. Both she and Senator McCain each have a video on YouTube where someone calls a woman the “B” word and both laugh…I guess they do make a team!

By Anghiari

August 30, 2008 9:49 PM | Link to this

As will happen with any person who few people have heard about there are bound to be rumors—there are several about Palin and they may or may not be true 1. Is that she never looked pregnant when she announced she was 7 months pregnant. At that same time her eldest daughter took two months off from school because she was supposed to have mono. Some think the baby is not Mrs. Palin’s There are several accusations of abuse of power… Abuse of Power investigation is not isolated. When the Alaska Creamery Board recommended closing Matanuska Maid Dairy, an unprofitable state-owned business, Palin objected, citing concern for the impact on dairy farmers and the fact that the dairy had just received $600,000 in state money. When Palin learned that only the Board of Agriculture and Conservation could appoint Creamery Board members, she simply replaced the entire membership of the Board of Agriculture and Conservation. The new board, led by businesswoman Kristan Cole, reversed the decision to close the dairy. The new board approved milk price increases offered by the dairy in an attempt to control fiscal losses, even though milk from Washington was already offered in Alaskan stores at lower prices. In the end, the dairy was forced to close, and the state tried to sell the assets to pay off its debts but received no bids.”

By Anghiari

August 30, 2008 9:50 PM | Link to this

As will happen with any person who few people have heard about there are bound to be rumors—there are several about Palin and they may or may not be true 1. Is that she never looked pregnant when she announced she was 7 months pregnant. At that same time her eldest daughter took two months off from school because she was supposed to have mono. Some think the baby is not Mrs. Palin’s There are several accusations of abuse of power… Abuse of Power investigation is not isolated. When the Alaska Creamery Board recommended closing Matanuska Maid Dairy, an unprofitable state-owned business, Palin objected, citing concern for the impact on dairy farmers and the fact that the dairy had just received $600,000 in state money. When Palin learned that only the Board of Agriculture and Conservation could appoint Creamery Board members, she simply replaced the entire membership of the Board of Agriculture and Conservation. The new board, led by businesswoman Kristan Cole, reversed the decision to close the dairy. The new board approved milk price increases offered by the dairy in an attempt to control fiscal losses, even though milk from Washington was already offered in Alaskan stores at lower prices. In the end, the dairy was forced to close, and the state tried to sell the assets to pay off its debts but received no bids.”

By Don Carpenter

August 31, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this

When one is reduced to firing attacks on the character of people and their VALUES (there, I said it again!) it plainly shows the deep seated prejudice that one can hold so bitterly within. “All the nutcases are coming out” is the type of remark you expect from weak minded people who have to use the arguments of others in long, drawn out boring details. For me, I like the choice, it’s that simple.

By Savanation

August 31, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

Looks like (Don) isn’t too fond of “long, drawn out bring details”, Especially when they don’t match his view of life. I am quite sure that any attack on the character(?) of someone who voed to kill 4000 American troops in an immoral war is absolutely proper. If that is their “values” then they have to live by it. I wouldn’t be able to sleep at night, but then I don’t have the Pro-Family values that Don does. It is amazing how little “value” these people have when it comes to a choice of getting a Judge they want or saving the lives of our servicemen. You can put a lot of money on which choice Don would take. He has Pro-Life and Pro-Family values. So he doesn’t care how many innocent people have their lives taken from them by his Pro-Life, Pro-Family President or candidate for President, what is important to him is getting narrow minded extremist judges on the Supreme Court. Pathetic. Hope that wasn’t too long and boring for you, Don.

By Elite attitudes and Hypocrites don’t cut it

August 31, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this

Savanation – If you looked…Alaskan’s jokingly refer to the paper as the News-Minus. And, like many editorial boards, membership is small and views limited, let alone that all offer opinions based on numerous components regardless of facts at times – happens at big papers too (this, from an insider). Thanks for sharing a page out of Obama’s playbook about degrees…you, like them, would rather call people names when arguments are weak. Your comment about the absence of Obama’s college days in the DNC infomercial is, well, weak too. The likely answer is that the Obama camp did not want to show his attendance at this country’s most elite schools, the same ones of the rivals that he attacks. Plus, they likely did not want to open the door again regarding his admitted drifting and drug use. And, for someone you allege is brilliant, the omission of his college years when all else is shared, is at a minimum, a highly disingenuous move especially from someone who alleges that he’s above playing those games (plus, didn’t his wife publically complain about having to pay back her loans?). And, you’ve resorted to yet another playbook move by falling to address, nor even provide detail to support your argument of Obama’s community organizer days, let alone address Obama’s signature vote in the state senate – present. Instead, you demonstrate the typical elite attitude by just going on the attack and we all know why. So, my friend, if you are going to play, then perhaps you should be prepared to support your claims.

By JJ

August 31, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this

Hey democrats, don’t talk about the lady’s lack of experience, it reminds me your guy at the top of the ticket had less than one year in the senate when he began running for president. I’ll be voting republican but not because of John McCain.

By Savanation

August 31, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this

“Elite attidutes and hypocrites” Gee, I didn’t realize McCaim posted on this blog. Maybe he just stopped to tie his $520 shoes before he got on his wife’s private jet(“it’s the ONLY way to travel around Arizona” (Cindy McM)) to one of his seven million plus dollar homes to get away from the riffraff in Ohio and decided to post on this blog. But if it isn’t McBush posting, then I guess we have to tell this guy that it is quite simple to get information about Sen’Obama, college and all, on his web site or on any of the major news sources, New York Times, Washington Post, 60 Minutes, 20/20, CNN, NPR, BBC, or any of hundreds of sites which have written about Sen. Obama and his college days and his service to his city and those who struggle to live there. It shouldn’t be too hard for you to find out the answers to all your questions(?) Oh by the way, several other newspapers from Alaska have now put out editorials expressing sheer shock at the silly selection of their Govenor. Even the woman’s mother-in-law say she is going to vote for Obama and thinks the idea of Palin as VP is ridiculous. “support your argument of Obama’s community organizer days,”(Elite) Look if it is too much for you to turn on the TV or read, just take trip to Chicago and talk to any of tens of thousands who would be happy to clue you in about “Obama’s community organizer days”. They are kind of proud of him there. As if most of the country. “Insider”(?) Ok, so deliver your papers at 4:00AM. I guess that gives you plenty of time to write assine posts. You are right about one thing, though. Hypocrites don’t cut it. After saying he is Pro-Life and then killing tens of thosands, including 4000 plus of his own servicemen, it is time for that hypocrite to go, preferably to jail and, thank the Lord, his clone Hypocrite and his Barbie Hypocrite will never see the inside of the White House. Well maybe she can get a tour.

By Savanation

August 31, 2008 5:03 PM | Link to this

“I’ll be voting republican but not because of John McCain.”(JJ) So the reason is?: Because you intend to be drunk? You weren’t raised properly? The Devil told you to do it? I bet I know! Because there are still bigots out there, even in the 21st century.

By Savanation is the poster child for what's wrong with political discourse today

August 31, 2008 8:03 PM | Link to this

Savanation – Continuing to denigrate those who disagree with you does little more than reduce the value of anything you share. At worst, your prose is actually damaging the party and candidate that you so vehemently want to defend. It’s likely that even Obama would be embarrassed, especially given that the more you write the more questions you raise that they’d rather not have asked (Obama’s home purchase…his views on when life begins for ex.). Yet, somehow you’re oblivious to those costs, let alone that many take great joy in the damage you create. Regardless, you’ll no doubt want to respond to this with the same vigor. But, you might consider doing so in a more reasoned and measured reply else your foes will take further delight. And, most, if not all readers of this blog will have further evidence of why anything you’ve said or will share should be written off.

By cindy

September 1, 2008 1:29 AM | Link to this

I am voting for Mccain, Palin ticket. As far as experience goes she has more than Obama. After Mccain serves eight years she will be a wonderful replacement.

By Savanation

September 1, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this

Gee, sorry I may have offended some of you folks. Like the person above who said:” As far as experience goes she has more than Obama.” It is not nice to offend morons. And I am really sorry that I offended the clown who couldn’t be bothered to find out the details about Obama’s life story. I wonder if he took my advice to actually know what he talking about before opening mouth and inserting foot? Then there was the quite intelligent genius who refered to “B. Hussein Obama” Don’t know why? Sen. Obama usually uses his first name, Barrack. But Hussein is quite a nice name. Nothing to be ashamed about. I guess the guy justs loves the name Hussein and would rather use it instead of Barrack. Hope I didn’t offend that name loving person. I am so sorry if I denigrate some of you folks. You do such a wonderful job of denigrating yourselves that you definitely don’t need my help. After all, if you voted for Bush, we should’t laugh at you. We should help you find competent mental health care.

By ralph

September 1, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this

I dont have any doubt that if someone called Obama a N. THAT THE d.d.n would erase it. Yet it is ok for Anghrari to slander Ms Palin by stating that her baby is her daughters instead.

By Savanation

September 1, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this

You are absolutely correct, Ralph. No one should ever slander anyone. That story was wrong. It is Palin’s 17 year old daughter who is pregnant without the benefit of wedlock.Too bad Palin’s Abstinence Only stance didn’t quite cut it for her daughter. Maybe if the kid had had proper sex education she wouldn’t be shopping for a layette instead of a Prom Dress. Those, wonderful to shout at the top of your lungs Pro-Family(Ha Ha), are really neat. Too bad they don’t work. But who cares. It is just a yuoung ladies life in question. If the Rep[ublicans shout that crap a little bit louder all the James Dobson nuts might follow along like good little sheep. Palin’s daughter will still be pregnant.

By frank marshall davis

September 2, 2008 12:29 AM | Link to this

I was going to vote for Obama but this story about Palin daughter I am going to vote for Mccain and Palin.Some things just go to far.

By Experience goes to McCain Palin

September 2, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this

The fact that the Obama is personally and publically touting his campaign management as his executive experience over Palin’s mayoral experience speaks volumes. He’s being more than disingenuous by using that example and he’s deceptively ignoring her role as Alaska’s governor and the breadth of what she controls for his personal gain, let alone that her state produces roughly 20% this country’s oil. Say, what you will about the other side, but this sounds a lot like politics as usual. Now, if Obama wanted to talk about business knowledge he could use Biden. But, that’s highly unlikely as that would expose Biden’s home state as one of the key tax haven’s of choice for business. Any and all who incorporate within Delaware (including former owners of this newspaper), regardless of whether they operate there or not, have enjoyed enhanced tax savings. Guess is that won’t share that one either.

By Don Carpenter

September 2, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this

Would your arguments “savanation”, be as caustic if your weren’t hidden under your assumed cloak of a ‘hidden name’? Would the editors of the Journal-News continue to allow you to espouse your Democratic diatribe if they knew who you really were? My name and connections to my party are well known, I have no reason to hide. I will continue to watch, and by the way, if you really want to be such a nasty brute, why don’t you hang around in the back alleys of the liberal blogs where you will find yourself right at home.

By Savanation

September 2, 2008 5:06 PM | Link to this

Gee, Don, would a rose by any other name smell as sweet? I notice that you can in no way find any thing in my “diatribes” that are not perfectly true. Diatribe is always a nice word to use when you have no cogent response to the facts which put your judgment in serious question. I would suggest you continue to watch your party and your connection to it, take America down the tubes for a couple more months. Hope you enjoy it. Why you would want your name attached to such hypocrisy and incompetence, is beyond me. “Caustic”??? I believe in calling a hypocrite, a hypocrite and an incompetent, an incompetent. To you that may be “caustic”. To me a fact is a fact. Oh, yes, now I remember you. You’re the one who thinks writing “Barack HUSSEIN Obama” is an intelligent political point. I wonder if your party really wants your connection to them known. Don’t they have enough problems with beauty queen runner ups? Don, if you ever have anything you would like to discuss rationally, (look up the word, Don) my diatribes and I will be right here. “When one is reduced to firing attacks on the” middle name of a candidate, I don’t expect I will be involved in any rational debates with that person. Even if his “name and connections to my party are well known.”

By Seeking more civility

September 3, 2008 8:05 AM | Link to this

Savanation, through his own posts, has unwittingly identified himself as Hamilton resident, Jim Mignerey – a sexagenarian who also dispenses his personal opinion through many public letters to the Hamilton Journal as if it were from some great, all-knowing savant. Perhaps his unmasking will result in more civility from him here.

By Savanation

September 3, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

As do most people,I use the name Savanation when posting on blogs. I guess just the same as “Seeking more civility”. As I say in my newspaper column, I tell it like it is and if you don’t like it, too damn bad. Some misguided folks equate being told the truth, which they don’t want to hear, as being less than civil. Not enough people listened to the truth on 2000 and 2004 and those people caused the deaths of thousands of our servicemen and tens of thousands other innocents. As long as a certain Party advocates lies over truth, killing over sensible diplomacy, greed over caring, lawlessness over the rule of law, Party over Country, incompetence over qualifications, fairy tales over science, the wants of the few over the needs of the many, I will continue to speak out in a voice as strong as neccessary to be heard over the bleeting of right wing sheep who despise hearing anything which isn’t what they want to hear. It is pretty simple, you have a choice: Return America to morality and greatness or continue the killing of your own servicemen and rack up hundreds of billions more debt to push off on your grandchildren. It doesn’t take a “great, all knowing savant” to make the correct choice. Just an ordinary American who cares about America. Seems to me that after eight years of America being trashed by those supposedly elected to protect and defend her, only an idiot would want the trashing to continue. Try something new. Think about your choice. Even if you screwed up the last two times America will come back. You can help or you can hinder that come back. Seems like you have a rather civil choice to make. Please make it civilly and do what is right for your country, not you Party as usual. (Oh, BTW, “sexagenarian”, that is different than a 44 year old moose killer who protects the American/Russian border all by herself, between beauty pageants, Right?)

By According to Jim

September 3, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this

This country would be better if we’d only listen…to him. If we don’t agree or capitulate, he’ll attack. And, that’s my real issue with Mignerey. His appalling assault on Palin’s minor child confirms he’ll stop at nothing to further his often incendiary and vacuous remarks. Obama takes great umbrage to that attack, but not Jim. He’ll write more of the same, justified in his stupor that he has all the answers…again, if we’d only listen. Yet, his humble existence suggests differently. Perhaps that’s why he fervently clings to a party that has the potential to coddle too much and seeks to punish those who achieve too much success on their own.

By Savanation

September 3, 2008 6:52 PM | Link to this

“His appalling assault on Palin’s minor child”(According)Just exactly where did I “appallingly assault” Palin’s minor child? As usual you will not be able to point that out. Because, other than in your mind, it did not happen. I did point out, quite accurately, that if the young ladies mother and father had done their job in providing adequate sex education and information, the poor child might not be in her condidtion. If, maybe, the mother would have spent less time wasted on Abstinence Only slogans and actually taught her daughter something meaningful, then the daughter might not be engaged in a shotgun wedding. “Appalling assault”? To tell the mother and the father that there is more and better information and help out there than the home school mishmash which did this poor girl no good? That is an “appalling assault”? I think the money wasted and the pregancies unprevented by the lack of education, in keeping with the Republican policies, that is what is “appalling”. Next time, whoever, when you say I “appallinly assaulted’ a young lady, you had better read what was said or have someone explain it to you. Your apology will be expected.

By Savanation

September 3, 2008 10:16 PM | Link to this

Still awaiting the apology due me from whatever the hell his name is. In the mean time let’s look at some other piece of nonsense his guy put forth…” he fervently clings to a party that has the potential to coddle too much and seeks to punish those who achieve too much success on their own.”… as usual this guy seems to be backward in everything he says. I am sure the “Party” he was refering to was the Republican party which has given a free ride to people like McCain and Delay and Boehner and Bush and Cheney, who do nothing for their country but tear it down. For this their party coddles, rewards them with a good living at the taxpayer’s expense, while doing absolutely nothing to deserve their pay. Now when the Democrats put forth a man who has overcome a rough start in life and and by the love of his family and his own innate intelligence and single minded desire to help his fellow man has become a great scholar and stateman and leader and next President of the United States, the Republicans call him Elitist and inexperienced. They try to punish him for being good. They reward the crap like Bush and Boehner. And a man who dumps his wife who stood by him while he was in prison and marries the rich tootsie who can further his political lusts, a man who flies in his wife’s jet and sleeps in the seven homes he never did a thing to earn, this man the Republican say: He is one of us, Adore him! BTW, I am still trying to figure out just what my “humble exisitence” may be. Want to clue me in, genius? I don’t know about your exsistence, but mine is rather nice. And I don’t have my conscience bothering me about killing those 4000 trusting soldiers like you must have. Still waitng for that apology, whatever your name is this particular minute. I guess multiple personalities are common among Republicans, what with being two faced.

By According to Jim yet again

September 3, 2008 11:33 PM | Link to this

If there is any apology to be given Jimmy, please let me share that honor to do so is all yours as your words more than speak for themselves. And, given your recent rant in the Hamilton-Journal about “a gentleman…and his blonde sidekick”, you’ll have to widen your apology to include all those whom you’ve obviously offend through that sexist and demeaning remark. Perhaps that’s yet another reason why you have issues with the McCain/Palin ticket. And, if you really can’t understand how your words have offended, then perhaps you need time with a professional to help you figure it out.

By Savanation

September 4, 2008 7:52 AM | Link to this

Interesting. This “Family and Moral Values” guru thinks talking about a blonde woman who is sitting beside a man on a TV show, similar to Johnny Carson’s “sidekick” Ed McMahon, is “sexist and demeaning”. My. how awful! Strange the things these people have to worry about. My words offend him. But for some reason killing our soldiers and trashing our constitution and mortgaging our country’s economy to China and Japan are just ducky with him. Talk about a need for “professional help”. Ever notice how this person without a name can only attack me personally. Never has he ventured into saying that what I say is wrong about the issues. Good thinking on his part. Let him be like the rest of his party. No way to defend lunacy so just attack the people to point out the lunacy. Why do I “have issues with the McCain/Palin ticket”? The answer is pretty obvious. I hate hypocrites and panderers to extremists and accessories to murder and their unqualified sidekicks. The main question is” Why don’t you? You can always tell who are the “Family Values” people. They are the ones who don’t give a damn about the family. Still waiting for that apology. Gee, in my christian charity, I can forgive you. All you have to is be a man and apologise.

By Savanation

September 4, 2008 8:17 AM | Link to this

For sheer hypocrisy, this guy who is nameless, takes the cake. Did anyone else notice that he found calling a blonde sidekick, a blonde sidekick, sexist and demeaning. But he didn’t seem to give a damn that the person the blonde sidekick was doing her sidekicking thing for, was spreading lies about Sen. Obama. That’s the thing about these kind of people. They don’t care about lies, it’s the truth they hate. You have to wonder about the morals of a person who would vote for a murderer and vote against the person who points out that fact. Maybe their priest or pastor could give them some counseling. I will do my part in trying to put some sense in their heads but it may take a miracle, like that guy in the white suit with the bad hairdo who pounds on their foreheads and they are saved.

By Perhaps its time for Jim to go

September 4, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this

My identity, my beliefs and my experience (including service to this country) would only obfuscate why I’ve playfully engaged Mignerey up until now, and that has been solely for this: to address his inability to demonstrate any modicum of respect toward others whose views and beliefs diverge with his own, and for his bullying antics. And, in light of the print forum the Journal provides him, that’s especially troubling as he apparently feels that he has a pass to act as he wants here. He uses tactics and phrases that if used in the workplace as frequently would get others reprimanded, if not fired if known. Perhaps the Journal should review all his posts and consider parting ways if he won’t help to improve the civility of discussions here. He doesn’t have to agree with anyone, just the manner in which he addresses others as right now, it’s repugnant and damages any reasonable discussion – a truth for which he’ll receive no apology.

By Savanation

September 4, 2008 5:53 PM | Link to this

This person, obfuscated or not, has lied about me, misquoted me, has never tried to engage upon the issues, has attacked me personally, and since he even seems to think he knows me, has commented upon my “humble exsistence” (I guess that I am not anywhere near the higher level of exsistence that is rightfully his). This guy is a real peach, isn’t he? It is a shame that for some, politics, in the last twenty or thirty years, has become “I want what I want, and I will not compromise in any way”. Years ago Hubert Humphrey and Barry Goldwater could sit done, work out legislation for the good of America and then go out for dinner. They had different ideas and beliefs, but they and others worked together. That all went by the wayside when certain Republicans began to think that the world would work better if everything was the way they wanted. It has culminated in this Bush and this Cheney and this Boehner and this McCain(he used to be more of the Goldwater mold, until he saw that principles did not win Republican nominations). No cooperation, no compromise, nothing done. America is now showing the terrible effects of that way of doing things. Now the idea from those people is: If anyone dares tell the truth, you turn around and say that they are lying. Say that they are disrespectful. Say that they have an “inability to demonstrate any modicum of respect toward others whose views and beliefs diverge with his own”.For them and for old “Obfuscated NoName”, that is the easy way. Much easier than acknowledging the facts and working with Americans to solve America’s problems. There are people who hate me, and obviously NoName is one of them. They hate me because I tell them every single thing they don’t want to know. How many times have I heard “well I am entitled to my opinion” from these people like old NoName. True. I am sure Bush was entiltled to his opinion. These people won’t seem to care that that opinion killed 4000 of our soldiers. Yes, he was entitled to his opinion. And, by God, I am entitled to say it stunk. Do you understand that, NoName?

By Looking for Common Ground

September 4, 2008 9:20 PM | Link to this

You raise a great point about Humphrey and Goldwater, one that I hope better illustrates what I’ve been trying to share. Mainly, that like them, all participants of this blog have different ideas and beliefs too and if H&G could find common ground to talk, then everyone here should be expected to do that too. And, to me, that common ground is respect. Blogs can make that difficult, but all deserve a friendlier playing field to talk. If I’ve done a poor job in conveying that, then please accept my apology. And, as you asked, I do respect your right to share and have no ill will toward you for that. Conversely, I hope you respect my right to share views regarding discussion. As you know, all politics are local and if participants here can’t at least agree to disagree in a more civil, respectful manner, then that really doesn’t provide much hope to improve the problems that you rightly noted we are having at the national level. Hence, improvement there demands that we begin here. At least, that’s my hope, especially since we all share another piece of common ground, concern for the welfare of this country.

By Savanation

September 5, 2008 7:57 AM | Link to this

OK, now that is a better way to be civil. I agree with you in concept but wonder way you don’t put it into practice? “concern for the welfare of our country”(noname) How many letters have you written to John Boehner telling to stop his obstructionism, to stop his lying, to get off the golf course and to work with the majority to solve problems? Did you tell Boehner that slinking around in the dark chamber of the House was rather dumb since he could have gotten praise by actually working out deals with Pelosi rather than blocking every bill that would have helped the American people? Did you picket the White House when you and everyone else found out that Bush lied us into war? Did you demand that Cheney and Rove and the rest of them be jailed after their treasonous exposure of a covert CIA agent? Did you bellow your lungs out when you saw that your greatgrandchildren would be saddled with the biggest debt in the history of the world because of Republican refusal to stop spending and to oversee what was spent? I could go on and on, because there is so much that these people, people you voted for, have done to ruin our country. But I guess the main question is, if you haven’t done ony of the things I just mentioned, what the hell have you done which shows “concern for the welfare of our country”? Campaign for 4 more years of the same people, the same policies, the same incompetence?