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Is it time to give Mangini some credit?
His record says he should be gone tomorrow, but the Cleveland Browns have not quit, and for this it seems the head coach deserves some kind of nod.
Say what you will about Eric Mangini, but he still has the Browns playing hard deep into a dreadful season, as evidenced by this little two-game winning streak. And there’s something to be said for that.
It’s important to be fair over these final few weeks when evaluating Mangini lest we run the risk of discarding a guy who actually could be the long-term answer.
Despite all his goofy fines and other blunders, I think there’s been enough progress to go forward with Mangini and feel pretty good about it.
But now here comes Mike Holmgren, who apparently will have the final say on Mangini if he ever gets around to telling owner Randy Lerner what the heck he wants to do.
For the record, in case anybody cares, I don’t automatically think hiring Holmgren, in any capacity, is the perfect solution. And I don’t want him at all if he’s going to be in the front office second-guessing the coach, acting like a coach, still wishing he was a coach.
But if Holmgren actually comes to the Browns, he absolutely should be the coach, because coaching clearly isn’t out of his system just based on some of his comments over the past few days.
Meanwhile, what to make of Sunday’s win over the Kansas City Chiefs, who have a defense that couldn’t stop a backfield full of sportswriters.
It’s no great accomplishment, but it has to count for something, right? And it followed a win over the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Surely Mangini should get credit for beating the Steelers in his first year, especially since the last time it had happened was two coaching regimes ago.
The Browns are a well-disciplined team, too, and that should count in Mangini’s favor as well. They are one of the least-penalized squads in the league, which admittedly gets lost in the shuffle of a season gone sideways.
All I know is that Don Shula always got the credit when his Miami Dolphins showed that kind of discipline.
So, too, should Mangini.
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By Big Dawg
December 20, 2009 11:47 PM | Link to this
The Browns have overcome coaching to win a couple of games. Mangini is an a-hole. Owners want him because he’s a clone of the Hoodie. Notice all the Hoodie Clones (Weis, McDaniel, Magini) are arrogantpricks who think they invented football. Holmgren was loser in the front office at Seattle. Didn’t draft one impact player and made bad hires in key front office spots. Frickin’ Lerner should do his homework and give some good football people a chance rather than just hiring names. Gotta love Josh Cribbs.
By tommyv
December 21, 2009 9:35 AM | Link to this
Sean: I am with you on this one. I know it has been a terrible season, but anyone paying attention can see the ship has been righted. The penalties are fewer, the running game is improving, the special teams are superb, the pass rush is improving, and the offensive line has been very good the last few weeks…all of this despite injuries. I think Mangini and his staff deserves another year.
By gregg
December 21, 2009 10:59 AM | Link to this
Give Mangini and his staff more time. But for God’s sake get rid of Brady Quinn! Everyone wants to hang the coach, but I don’t hear too much about the worst QB in the league. They have won a couple games, but that will be the limit as long as Mr.Quinn is under center.
By Bob
December 21, 2009 11:32 AM | Link to this
Brown’s fans do not deserve another season of this loser, Mangini. Two record-setting performances in the same game, and they barely beat the lowly Chiefs? The Browns are a long way from turning any corners. They’ll never get there with Mangini.
By fmw
December 21, 2009 12:53 PM | Link to this
get rid of him and let a good quarterback coach, work with brady this off season. the guy’s got heart and skills that have to be polished.
By Spoon
December 21, 2009 1:13 PM | Link to this
Lets not keep firing coaches even if Mangini pissed most of us off I think he deserves another chance, but Holmgren will fire him as GM’S always bring in their own people.Iam not saying this will happen but Jimmie Johnson went 1-15 his first year in Dallas then things slowly turned around.
By fmw117
December 21, 2009 1:16 PM | Link to this
why didn’t he play the kid out of ohio state, in some of those futile games, to give him experience, Robiske.he had very good hands and decent speed?Why pay good money and let him sit on the bench!
By Bob
December 21, 2009 2:58 PM | Link to this
What are you talking about not playing Robiskie? What about not playing Jerome Harrison all year? Mangini is no Jimmie Johnson. Never will be. Why put all Brown’s fans thru another year of this futility?
By Bengal Fan
December 21, 2009 3:58 PM | Link to this
As a huge fan of the Bengals please keep Mangini around.
By Bob
December 21, 2009 4:07 PM | Link to this
SEE? When a Bengal fan wants you to keep him, he’s gotta go. Anyway, pretty much a done deal, with Holmgren, per ESPN. I don’t see him keeping Mangini around.
By Go Browns
December 21, 2009 7:00 PM | Link to this
What happens in Cleveland won’t make much difference to Browns fans in Dayton if Channel 7 doesn’t air the Browns’ games. So sad!
By gil
December 22, 2009 7:43 AM | Link to this
it seems a bit peculiar that the scrubs currently playing for the browns apparently have more talent/heart than the supposed pro bowl caliber lugs on the IR. my guess is they may have gotten hurt mailing it in while the taxi squad continues to prep and buy into a system that the romeo-pampered players resent. regardless of who coaches the browns next year, they can only get better and maybe the credit should go to mangini, even if he is an a-hole.
By quantoid
December 23, 2009 9:29 AM | Link to this
I would give him credit for beating a competitive team. Note the few wins were the result of playing this weakest of this year’s teams. Even Pittsburgh has not had a stellar year.
By yo
December 23, 2009 11:19 PM | Link to this
yeah, sean. i see what ya mean! we better sign that bad boy before someone scoops him up from us! what a catch!
By Jack
December 28, 2009 3:44 PM | Link to this
Beating Pittsburgh excites me. Beating fellow retreads does not. On the fence, if they keep him, okay, if they fire him, OK. Lets finish the rebuilding project, dump both QB’s and lets truly start over.
By Ryan
January 28, 2010 1:08 PM | Link to this
You people that want Mangini fired absolutely amaze me! It’s not like the man inherrited a team overflowing with talent. He took an awful team, with ZERO work ethic, and ZERO discipline and got things going in the right direction. Not only did Mangini finish better than last year’s 4-12 squad, but he weeded out the cancers and even got draft picks for Stonehands Edwards. (Mind you he was leaving a free agent at the end of the year and the Browns would have gotten NOTHING for him) The last three games were against bad teams, and we BEAT them. Remember 2007? We needed to beat a couple of bad teams down the stretch to clinch a playoff berth. Blew games against a couple of bad teams like the Bengals and Raiders. So don’t act like beating bad teams should be a “gimmie”. I don’t see any reason why Mangini can’t have this team around the 7-9 or 8-8 mark in 2010.