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Ted Nugent gets the boot…
Motor City motormouth Ted Nugent has been fired from his job as a columnist at the Waco Tribune in Texas. Apparently Ted was a bit too wacko for Waco.
Some of you might recall my interview with Ted Nugent which aired on WYSO a few years ago. I spoke to the Tedster about his book “God, Guns, and Rock and Roll”.
Ted was a real handful. He accused me of being on drugs. Ted claims he has never used drugs. That is when I asked Ted about the album cover that his band The Amboy Dukes put out that pictured a pile of drug paraphernalia; hookahs, roach clips, bongs, etc. The album was called Journey to the Center of Your Mind. That band was merely a vehicle for Ted Nugent. He has always had control of his bands, from The Amboy Dukes to The Damn Yankees.
Caught in this seeming paradox, the clean living Ted versus album cover art that was nothing but illegal drug toys he lied; he claimed that somebody had pulled a fast one on him, that he had no idea what any of that stuff meant. Right.
The Nuge is an unadulterated jerk. But I was saddened to hear that my fellow ink-stained wretch just got canned. I may not agree with him but I do support his right to utter his words…
Here’s a copy of the e-mail that Captain Spandex sent to one of his buddies at Texas Journal:
“Just been fired from Waco Trib. Now they will have to rely on their other New York Times Best Sellers, and array of clever and diverse journalists to convey their diverse & tolerant point(s) of view. Here’s my Teditorial after being told to not criticize in my Sunday features that they chose to not run.
I’ll Take Freedom of Speech and Freedom of the Press for $100, Alex by Ted Nugent When the Nazis had the Americans surrounded in the town of Bastogne, they demanded American General McAuliffe surrender or they would level the city. General McAuliffe’s reply: Nuts!
The new editor of the Waco Trib recently told me that I could only write nice things about people, that I could not be critical. Basically, that I need to tone it down. I can not, nor will not, comply with this Romper Room request. My reply: Nuts!
The editor is wrong to try and muzzle my opinions. As a columnist, I express my opinions. That’s what columnists do. That’s also the charge of an independent and free press.
The job of the press is to be the “fourth” arm of government. To intentionally muzzle itself is to fail at its most basic watchdog responsibility. As readers, voters and citizens we should demand a watchdog press, not a lapdog press.
I can’t envision Thomas Jefferson, George Washington or Ben Franklin making a request of an anti-King George columnist to tone it down. I can’t imagine Martin Luther King toning down his message. It is impossible for me to fathom any American to tone down what is in his heart and soul.
I criticize where I believe criticism is due. That’s what Thomas Paine did when he published Common Sense prior to the Revolutionary War. He criticized King George for his heavy handed and wrong policies. We are free in large part because of Thomas Paine’s open, routine and strident criticism.
I have criticized President Obama and liberals for what I consider to be destructive, anti-American policies that will hurt our economy and harm your health. Not once have I criticized him personally because I have never met the man. As far as I know he is a decent enough guy, but in my opinion, is politically naive and very wrong, even dangerous for America. So do many other Americans as indicated by the shrinking support for his takeover of the health care system and numerous other heavy handed, foolish moves.
Obama’s policies are bankrupting America. He supports a health care bill that he hasn’t even read, nor have those in congress who support it. If that doesn’t deserve massive amount of criticism, what does? When I have criticized President Obama, I have almost always countered his dunderheaded, Marxist policies with a free market, more personal freedom alternative. More government control is not the answer to what ails America. Obama believes otherwise.
This newspaper and others should encourage spirited and lively debate and criticism, especially when so many newspapers are losing subscribers. I don’t support milquetoast journalism. It bores me. You are free to disagree with my opinions. In fact, I encourage those of you who do to fill the letters to the editor page of this newspaper. I revel in open debate. That’s the America I know and love. Express yourself, Texas. Lay it on the line. Give it your best shot. Be bold in your disagreement.
Construcitve, bold criticism is cool. It rocks. It can literally change the course and destiny of an individual, neighborhood, community, and nation. It is the most basic of our Constitutional rights — the 1st Amendment. Failing to criticize emboldens politicians to stay on course regardless how many icebergs are dead ahead. Political correctness is the cancer of journalism, not its cure.
America and Texas was born with a defiant streak. Those genes still flow through my veins. To request that I not criticize is to spit on the memory of those who gave birth to America. Again, I criticize where I believe criticism is due. That’s my civic job and your job as Americans. If the editor of this newspaper doesn’t like that, he will have to fire me. I will not surrender to his wrong demands.
In the words of another famous American military man, William Barrett Travis, commander of the Alamo: God & Texas. Victory or death.”
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By Alice
August 21, 2009 2:38 PM | Link to this
I’m sick of people using the right to free speech as an excuse to not be personally responsible. The media is a reflection of our society - a society that in general has lost all boundaries. I’m also sick of all the conservatives whining about not being represented in the press. Their complaints all boil down to power and influence. After electing Bush to two terms and squashing any chance at health reform for the last seventy years I don’t think they have anything to worry about. How do you boast about having a center-right country at the same time that you’re crying about the MSM brainwashing everyone? The “liberal elitist” MSM doesn’t seem to be too successful at manipulation so why do conservatives continue to play the victim card? I thought that was something only liberals were good at. And Vick, I’ll do ya one better - based on his music alone I have no problem with saying that there’s NO WAY that Ted Nugent has never done drugs and he was totally lying to you.By vick
August 21, 2009 11:34 AM | Link to this
Thanks, Raoul.By Raoul
August 21, 2009 9:14 AM | Link to this
Vick, your posts are duly noted, and perhaps I was out of line. I am not a fan of the ‘the Nuge’; never was. Although he is an ardent defender of the Bill of Rights, he is a bit of a boor. I don’t even like his music. I apologize for insinuating that Downsized was backstage for something more than just doing a job. I still take issue with the constant drumbeat of conservative hypocracy, which once again was the essence of his post. I still think his intent was to slam the ‘Nuge’ not for acting like a rock star, but for being a conservative mouthpiece.By Odd Brian
August 19, 2009 11:01 PM | Link to this
The folks here who are decrying this as an instance of a liberal conspiracy should go read the Waco Tribune’s editorial on the issue: http://tinyurl.com/mbchen The paper would get getting more conservative opinions in their editorials. What “The Nuge” was fired for was that he refused to follow the second part: be civil and thoughtful. Apparently, this was too much for a sociopath such as Nugent to follow. I don’t know about the rest of you but I’m tired of reading & hearing from those like Malkin, Coulter, & Beck and I applaud the WacoTrib for taking a grownup approach. Conservatives need fewer whackjobs like Nugent and more intelligent voices like William F. Buckley.By irishguy
August 19, 2009 2:04 PM | Link to this
Vick, now that you mention it, I can’t think of anyone “greedier” than the big rock stars/acts and promoters. 30 or 40 years of album/CD sales, royalties and concert tours would make enough to shame most 3rd world GDP’s. My 1st concert was also only $6. I quit going to concerts in the ‘90’s other than the occasional act at the Fraze. But if people want to pay to see them, go for it. Far be it from me to interfere with the free market.By vick
August 19, 2009 1:19 PM | Link to this
Irish, I hitch hiked to Knoxville in 1971 to see the Rolling Stones. My ticket cost 6 dollars. Nowadays you have the Ticketmasters putting “service fees” on tickets in a concert marketplace that is now heavily monopolized. How much is a Stones ticket nowadays? 300 bucks? 400? I don’t even wanna know. So “orgy of capitalism” seems apropos in my mind. I guarantee that 6 dollar show was far superior to anything those R&R fossils would put on now. Perhaps my usage of the term “orgy of capitalism” is broader than you might prefer? I do have experience in the music industry; radio, concerts, managing record stores. That industry is in decline in some areas but in regards to concerts, the hogs are still lined up at the trough. When a headliner can gross half a billion on a concert tour that seems like plenty in a down economy. Do you agree? Or are big rock stars more like hedge fund traders, grabbing as much as they can when an opportunity presents itself?By irishguy
August 19, 2009 12:55 PM | Link to this
Vick, I’ll grant you there are “absurd wall street levels of greed” (bernie madoff). But I’ve never before heard or seen an “orgy of capitalism”. Does that mean one can call big goverment an “orgy of socialism”?By vick
August 19, 2009 9:28 AM | Link to this
Actually, Raoul, your comments about Downsized being backstage at a rock concert are a bit out of line. Here’s why: rock concerts are the ultimate marketing event. That’s right, they epitomize the capitalist virtues that you so frequently praise, Raoul. Especially today, as ticket prices have soared to absurd Wall Street levels of greed. Back when Downsized was working backstage he was there because he was working, just like the off duty police officers who were earning overtime pay, the caterers who were delivering the food and the ice, the electricians who were making certain the Nuge wasn’t fried by his guitar, etc. Ted’s limo driver was on the clock and so was the little guy who sewed Ted into his spandex tights. While Downsized is making reference to certain individuals who might have been backstage for more seductive purposes, i.e. possible under aged Nuge groupies, their presence there should not be confused with the orgy of capitalism that was functioning all around them. Thousands of Nuge fans paid their money to hear Ted scream. They bought their t-shirts and over-priced Whizzer burgers and went home, probably pleased to have been there. Most of these people were doing their jobs Raoul, including Downsized, who was in the employ of the promoter who brought the Motor City Madman to town.By Raoul
August 18, 2009 9:29 PM | Link to this
Hypocracy, Downsized? Anyone working backstage at a Ted Nugent concert most certainly would have to be on board with the whole rock star stuff. Yet you paint the whole scenario as a hypocritical conservative doing all the things that conservatives oppose, and have the gall to describe it as ‘profligate behavior’. Just what were you doing there? Were you hoping for a sniff and a taste? Or do you now hold him with so low regard because it turns out he is a conservative? Are we supposed to think that if he had been a card carrying liberal he gets a free pass? Either the rock star life is one you approve of or it isn’t. It’s hard to tell from your post.By irishguy
August 18, 2009 8:54 PM | Link to this
DS, I’ve seen some on the right bring up that very issue about the Nuge. Claiming conservatives were so anxious to have a “celebrity” spokesperson that they embraced Ted despite his numerous infidelities. Some also felt Mr Novak was an anti-Semite. Glad you enjoyed the show.By vick
August 18, 2009 6:51 PM | Link to this
Thanks, Downsized, for your intimate sniff of the Tedster’s backstage aura. I think that sex remains popular among a broad constituency; from blissed out post-Woodstockers, to evangelical TV preachers, pinot noir progressives, family values espousing politicians, even, heaven forbid, rock stars!By downsized
August 18, 2009 5:44 PM | Link to this
Haha. Those fun loving conservatives! I once worked backstage at a concert featuring Mr. Nugent. The line of dozens of nubile, young women (some, if not many, under legal age) extended some several dozen long, waiting to enter his tour bus. In one door and out the other they came, and went. Hopefully, Mr. Nugent was practicing safe sex. Judging by the protective sheathes left in his parking space, I think so? I wonder what his adoring conservative fans would have to say about such profligate behavior? But, those were different times weren’t they? Hypocrisy knows no age. By the way, the smell coming from the bus was not incense. Maybe he was instructing them in the joys of archery?By Blowfly
August 18, 2009 2:55 PM | Link to this
I recall a Christmas card Ted once sent to a record store I worked at (one familiar to this blog). It featured a nice picture of Santa on the cover. Turn the page and there’s a picture of Ted guns blazing, blood everywhere, holding Santa’s hat with the caption - Merry F*#@’n Christmas (except there was no editing). I thought it was funny at the time. Now that I look back I’m not so sure Ted meant it as a joke. The other memory of Ted from that time period was the time a guy walked up to the counter with a copy of Ted’s Tooth, Fang, and Claw album which features a picture of Ted as a half cat, half Ted creature. The guy held up the album and said “I use to be this creature … for like 2 years.” Can you guess what decade this was? Ah, good times.By Rob
August 18, 2009 12:36 PM | Link to this
Personally, I think Ted doesn’t miss a trick and the next bit of shameless self promotion will be “Too wacko for Waco” - which is no mean feat considering they let some guy named Koresh set up a live in camp there. Let’s not despair, I’m sure Ted will find a venue, and while he is most likely a jerk he is also a pretty quick wit. To the point, if I have to listen to a perspective that I disagree with, I’d rather listen to Ted and chuckle than Rush and despair for the future of the nation. By the way, “me” - lighten up. I buy the notion that Ted doesn’t imbibe or partake or whatever - but he sure trades on the perception of an association with “the lifestyle”. Perhaps you are unfamilar with classics like “Wango Tango” and the ever-popular “Free For All” (the stakes are high and so am I). Like I said, I’ve always been a “when in doubt, whip it out” man myself, so I appreciate Mr. Nugent’s temerity.By vick
August 18, 2009 10:49 AM | Link to this
I’ll assume that the posters “me” and “vick’s friend” didn’t hear my hour-long live radio interview with Ted Nugent. I never said Ted used drugs. I’m not saying that now, either. He was the one who accused me of using drugs-based on zero information. I didn’t object. I’m not self righteous about such things. He claimed he does not use drugs-he claims he never did. Ted is crazy like a fox. When he played naive and dumb about his druggie album cover from however many years ago he was unconvincing. That is where I think he was telling a lie. He knew what that druggie stuff was all about. Ted claimed that somebody was pulling the wool over his eyes by putting that album cover out without letting Ted know what all that marijuana paraphernalia was about. Poor Ted. That’s my point. For Ted to play dumb is disingenuous. Perhaps he was merely trying to cash in on the druggie crowd with that cover? Regardless, he knew exactly what he was doing. I reprinted Ted’s entire e-mail. I defended his right to speak. I did not say anything about his comments. You guys can rant and rave all you want. I have my opinion of the Nuge-you have yours.By Page Turner
August 18, 2009 10:28 AM | Link to this
Mr. Nugent doesn’t seem to know whether he’s been fired or not, but he’s willing to die for it. He starts this rant, “Just been fired from the Waco Trib.” By the end, “If the editor of this newspaper doesn’t like that, he will have to fire me. I will not surrender to his wrong demands.” So are you fired, Ted? Or just confused and melodramatic? BTW, Ted, “America and Texas WERE born…”By me
August 18, 2009 9:15 AM | Link to this
Wow Vick Mickunas tell us how you really feel. The problem with people like you Vick is that you live in a liberal journalistic bubble. You are surrounded by like minded American hating liberals like yourself. Thus, when someone dares not to toe the line and regurgitate the same liberal drivel like every other liberal newspaper editorialist, you are so shocked. Liberals are all for free speech as long as it agrees with their own. I wonder if Mr. Mickunas gets so indignant when Bill Mahr calls the Pope a pedophile or Ward Churchill compares 9-11 victims to Nazis? My guess is he would defend that as free speech. As for the Nugent and drug use, the best you can do is a album cover from a record made almost 40 years ago? Are you serious, that’s your proof he did drugs? All a serious journalist has to do, and I’m excluding you Mr. Mickunas, is read or listen to interviews with some of the biggest rockers of the day. Many of them commented on what a straight arrow Ted was back during a time when drugs and anti-American sentiment were the norm. I suspect however that Vicks bitterness toward Nugent is rooted less in his politics but has more to do with Nugent dabbling in the same field of endeavor. Maybe Vick secretly wishes he had the stones to stray outside the liberal talking points and express a strong defiant opinion, like a real man.By Vick's friend
August 18, 2009 6:41 AM | Link to this
I remember when Vick was THE proponent for the 60’s anthem of “freedom”. He was considered at that time to be “an unadulterated jerk.” His selected anti-establishment rants were well thought out and most were valid. He backed it up with facts. Somewhere along the way he lost his common sense, became a shill for socialism, accepted dogma from the left, embraced the party line, and in essence, became what he despised as a youth. I am saddened that Vick has become biased to the point of writing and speaking his gobblygook to the point that it is accepted as truth. Ted may be a jerk personally, but his words ring a tone of common sense and the truth of our Republic. Vick has accepted literary democracy…verbal/biased mob rule. Sad.By Gregg Nicholl
August 18, 2009 4:57 AM | Link to this
It is lamentable that so many institutions-the press, education, private business bow to a particular line of thinking and strongly discourage any opposing views. This does a great diservice to our country. America was made great through a differing of views and vigorous debate. Say what you want about “Turn ‘Im Up Ted,” his position is correct on this one.By Ozzy
August 18, 2009 1:08 AM | Link to this
You make me proud Ted!By Dave
August 17, 2009 8:27 PM | Link to this
I support Ted’s right to speak his mind. But I don’t see where the Bill of Rights requires the Waco Trib to publish it for him. Thomas Paine published and distributed his own tracts. Ted is welcome to do the same.